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Permalink Reply by Mortimer Snerd on July 21, 2009 at 8:12am

And just to add on here, I listen to MX satellite radio, and BB Kings Bluesville is all I listen too. I wonder how many of the songs I listen to everyday, have a CBG in them?

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Permalink Reply by Doc Oakroot on July 21, 2009 at 10:33am

Why would anything on sanitized satellite radio have a CBG in it? If you rate songs from 1 to 5 the goal of radio is to only play 3s - cause those won't offend anyone enough to make them turn it off or change the channel.


Mortimer Snerd said:

And just to add on here, I listen to MX satellite radio, and BB Kings Bluesville is all I listen too. I wonder how many of the songs I listen to everyday, have a CBG in them?

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Permalink Reply by Kevin M. Kraft on July 21, 2009 at 11:35am

Well, you COULD be right, Snerd. However, I think you'd find more than one or two pics in your research. I know others have. And since the CBG was birthed in poverty...while it's too much to say that every black man had one, it's equally wrong to say they were not in good supply.



Mortimer Snerd said:

well, I got on the cigar box guitar train here because they sound cool, not because of the history of a poor black man's attempt to make a home made guitar out of a cigar box. I think many here are here for that alone. A few like to ride that history train and make us all believe that CBG were invented by poor black men, and grand stand on how "thats how the blues were born". Now we can spin it anyway we want to, but the pictures I see of old Blues players, have guitars, resonators and Dobro's. Sure you can find a picture or two of a crude home made guitar made from a cigar box, but I kind of think we embellished up this mystic fabricated idea of all poor black blues players had cigar boxes for guitars.

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Permalink Reply by Dylan Waldron on July 21, 2009 at 12:19pm

I think it has something to due with musical taste. Most younger black or white kids don't listen to blues, classic rock, or anything that doesn't have a pronounced bass line. I don't think it has anything to do with slavery or racism its just something most younger american kids aren't into.

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Permalink Reply by jim on July 21, 2009 at 12:33pm

Throughout Wisconsin's history, traditional music has been an important element in communities. In Wisconsin's north woods during the logging boom of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, fiddle tunes, button accordions and ballads of brave lumberjacks were among the only entertainments available to the men in the isolated lumber camps. When musical instruments were scarce in the logging camps, the lumberjacks used their ingenuity to craft some very playable guitars, fiddles, dulcimers and basses. Of course, cigar boxes were used in many of these, but the designs were well advanced including guitars with full scale necks, six strings and frets.

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Permalink Reply by Old Lowe on July 21, 2009 at 12:59pm

I am white and fat

There seems to be a lot of us!

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Permalink Reply by Kevin M. Kraft on July 21, 2009 at 2:29pm

I hear you. There may be some truth to that. But I believe it has to do with more than mere musical taste. Thanks for your comments, Dylan.

Dylan Waldron said:

I think it has something to due with musical taste. Most younger black or white kids don't listen to blues, classic rock, or anything that doesn't have a pronounced bass line. I don't think it has anything to do with slavery or racism its just something most younger american kids aren't into.

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Permalink Reply by Kevin M. Kraft on July 21, 2009 at 2:29pm

Wee said,Jim.

jim said:

Throughout Wisconsin's history, traditional music has been an important element in communities. In Wisconsin's north woods during the logging boom of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, fiddle tunes, button accordions and ballads of brave lumberjacks were among the only entertainments available to the men in the isolated lumber camps. When musical instruments were scarce in the logging camps, the lumberjacks used their ingenuity to craft some very playable guitars, fiddles, dulcimers and basses. Of course, cigar boxes were used in many of these, but the designs were well advanced including guitars with full scale necks, six strings and frets.

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Permalink Reply by Kevin M. Kraft on July 21, 2009 at 2:30pm

LOL Okay, Lowe! Thanks for that.

Old Lowe said:

I am white and fat

There seems to be a lot of us!

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Permalink Reply by Mark Werner on July 21, 2009 at 3:13pm

I've heard comments from older bluesmen that the blues have been "stolen" by young white kids. (by which they meant guys like Clapton and others) It was not meant as a derrogatory; rather a lament that there are so few young and upcoming black blues players.
There are some, of course, but it does seem that the interest in roots music is largely a white thing currently.

Why? I have no idea. Associations with the past? Jim Crow and voter tests and separate johns? I don't know, being rather thoroughly white myself.

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Permalink Reply by Wes "I'm Baaaaack" Yates on July 21, 2009 at 4:17pm

Oh Mark, I gotta tell you. I've been into Blind Boy Fuller for a while and some of his tunes (Piedmont Blues style) you can tell were... borrowed for country and western. Plus there are a few that sound like they could have been used by a particular 50's singer [read: Elvis].

-Wes

Mark Werner said:

I've heard comments from older bluesmen that the blues have been "stolen" by young white kids. (by which they meant guys like Clapton and others) It was not meant as a derrogatory; rather a lament that there are so few young and upcoming black blues players.
There are some, of course, but it does seem that the interest in roots music is largely a white thing currently. Why? I have no idea. Associations with the past? Jim Crow and voter tests and separate johns? I don't know, being rather thoroughly white myself.

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Permalink Reply by Kevin M. Kraft on July 21, 2009 at 6:23pm

Thanks. The blues have been abandoned rather than stolen, I tend to think.

Mark Werner said:

I've heard comments from older bluesmen that the blues have been "stolen" by young white kids. (by which they meant guys like Clapton and others) It was not meant as a derrogatory; rather a lament that there are so few young and upcoming black blues players.
There are some, of course, but it does seem that the interest in roots music is largely a white thing currently. Why? I have no idea. Associations with the past? Jim Crow and voter tests and separate johns? I don't know, being rather thoroughly white myself.

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