Many of you may have noticed the absence of Wayfinder in recent weeks. It appears that he has deleted all of his many postings and has withdrawn from CBN participation.
I recently hooked up with Wayfinder over at Handmade Music Clubhouse. He is still very much into building and testing cigar box designs, but for reasons of his own, decided to leave CBN.
He did ask that I pass along his apology for omitting many of his interesting test findings. Unfortunately, he did not retain personal copies of these postings, so is unable to pass them along for those that found them interesting and useful.
It is unfortunate that Wayfinder found it necessary to leave the site as he was (for me at least) one of the most interesting posters on the building forum. I understand that on an unmonitored board, there is always the chance that conflicts, disagreements and misunderstandings can arise between posters of radically diverse backgrounds and cultures. As a result, good people, from time to time, take their experience and wisdom and leave. When they do, we all lose.
So, for me the lesson is simple-->As Ellen says "Be kind to one another."
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Yep. I have been a mod on a number of forums, and you are damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
If you leave things to run their natural course, then people get upset that you did not intervene. If you DO intervene, then you get accused of censorship.
Ya just can't win.
Good post Cause. I made a smart ass comment on a tuning thread last week or so and for that I apologize. Sorry Wayfinder.
Come on back. You have 800+ views or so in these two threads. You're the straw that stirs the drink these days.
He held his own until he decided it wasn't worth it, it seems... Had a brief exchange with him elsewhere... He's good, just didn't want to deal with what he had here...
I normally swing around the Build forum and ignore everything else here... maybe that's why I missed it...
Done. He appreciated it.
You have to be careful not to get into debates about thing that are subjective like if a piezo sounds better then a mag. It just doesn't have a true answer so people shouldn't get bent but we do.
You can tell WF. has a lot of passion about these guitar and how they are built, like many of us . I would rather build then talk about it but that's just me. We do learn from others
Hopefully your come back dude. seems to me you have a lot of support here.
I belong to forums with an army of mods. Both stateside and global. I belong to forums with only one mod. All these mods have ever done is step in when necessary. Try to stop the "Well my &^%$ smells better than your ^%$@." from getting out of hand. Usually everything is handled behind the scenes. PMs and Emails are sent before any action is taken. All of them have a LONG set of rules. Some extremely broad so they can cover a wide range of the same problem. And all have the same 'If we see fit' type of clause. Just to cover themselves. Well governed forums have strict rules for being a mod. Mods that run around hunting with a heavy stick are escorted out of modship.
Mods also get plenty of help from members. Some defending one side or the other. Some warning of threads going sour. People really do care about their environment.
Good mods with a strict set of rules to follow will never stop creativity. Or the occasional disagreement. In truth, disagreements can go on longer as a real discussion. All posters knowing they have to abide by the rules AND knowing everyone is being modded equally.
Self modded forums tend to have a pack mentality. If the person offended is popular then that person will have backers. If the offending person is popular than the offense has backers. That's just the way it goes. People standing up for the unpopular can put themselves at risk. They are just as likely to get as blasted as the person they're trying to defend. Un modded forums never grow. That IS a fact. Everything that is typed into a forum can be read by anyone visiting. Everything. What may or may not be evident to members can be very evident to outsiders.
Most people are uncomfortable in a self governed environment. Long winded, legally written rules and regs. The kind that everyone agrees to but never actually read. Along with a promise of fair moderation makes a forum feel safe. And helps it to grow. Because a safe environment is welcoming to disagreements. Equally inviting to unpopular creativity and opinions.
All the golden rules and good mods wont stop people from getting hurt. Or stop them from leaving. All they can do is hold on to a promise of equal neutrality. Knowing you or someone else did wrong and where treated equally. Knowing you or someone else were wronged and defended equally. Either way it's easier to let go of hard feeling when you know your not on your own.
I have this unproven idea that if everyone used an avatar that was a picture of themselves then things would be a lot more personable. Using our subject as an example, I wasn't quite sure how to take in Wayfinder's postings. However, when I saw a picture of him posted from the KC CBG Fest, I saw a truly happy guy with his instrument. Maybe a bit eccentric. Definitely in tune with what he wanted to be doing.
Everyone should be a little bit more analog, less digital.
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