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Permalink Reply by Dan Sleep on December 1, 2013 at 6:09am

I believe they are the same.

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Permalink Reply by Scott aka Farmer Ted on December 1, 2013 at 7:02am

You can always remove the thin wire leads and add ones that are a bit heavier...like from old stereo speakers.

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Permalink Reply by Uncle John on December 1, 2013 at 1:21pm

I don't know, but I will say I use the 27s and like the sound.  It varies some from git to git, but I generally mount under the box and near the saddle- not under, but off to the side.  

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Permalink Reply by Gibby Fiddy Five on December 1, 2013 at 2:21pm

Thanks I was going to be ordering some 27's and was curious.I'm used to 22gauge under the hood.

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Permalink Reply by Yankee Dog on December 2, 2013 at 1:37am

No offense to Gitty and all. but the piezos sold seperatly are junk. The wires are extremely thin. They come loose from the buzzer if you sneeze on them.

The prewired kits on the other hand are robust and well made. The wires are much heavier gage and the solder joints very well done.  I wont waste my money on the packs of piezos again.

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Permalink Reply by Randy S. Bretz on December 2, 2013 at 2:26am

Use  rod piezo`s

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Permalink Reply by Dan Sleep on December 2, 2013 at 2:16am

No offense to Yankee Dog, but I have been using those same piezos for years, and never had any problems with the wires coming off. I have installed them in over 150 guitars with no issues.

I DO understand that the solder joint is not the most robust, and could be prone to failure if the wire was tugged on, so I make sure when I install them that I cover the spot where the solder joints are with hot glue to give them some extra security.

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Permalink Reply by Uncle John on December 2, 2013 at 4:10am

Guys, what I do is put a small dab of hot melt glue over the solder leads and sometimes on the wire to hold it where I want it.  

I hot melt glue the piezo to the box and generally burn the thumb that is holding it in place.

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