Ok, newbee here, so apologies for any ignorance, but here goes: I've just collected the bit's'n'pieces that will finally get me started.
A very friendlyminded cigarshopowner in Oslo donated me a bunch of boxes yesterday - all with kinda different qualities - and I'm dragged: I love the Romeo and Julietta box for it's sheer volume, thinking it would make a lovely boom, i like the Java and Zino boxes for its masive wood, thinking it might be quite resonant, I like the Griffin's for the woods and being so flat'n'light, and also i like the Ramon Allones for it's classic looks.
Being a newbee (just starting out here) I can't decide, as I do not know if the woods and volume really matters that much anyways (if hard pressed I'd say tone is more important than looks, though).
Any advise or guidance highly appreciated. :D
(BTW I plan on using a pieze, but if the thing works acoustically I'd love it)
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If it were me, I would chose the Romeo e Julietta, followed by the Ramon Allones. Not because of graphics, tho they are nice. The ReJ might make a deeper sounding guitar. The Ramon would be my next tho I've seen the Java boxes quite often. The others might be ok, and mostly good for solid/electric types.
One question to ask: are the lids cardboard or wood (pressed wood or plywood)? Both are ok, but one makes a more muted sound in my opinion. You might be able to tell if one you can warp with your hands, it might be the cardboard. Wood (plywood) is much stiffer. I usually can't warp the lid.
this is _my_ opinion only tho. Others will give better opinions.
-WY
Thanks, Wes! Exactly my choice, too. The lids are all superstiff (thus making them plywood?). Is that a good or bad thing (I think even Gretsch make plywood tops these days :))
Wes Yates said:If it were me, I would chose the Romeo e Julietta, followed by the Ramon Allones. Not because of graphics, tho they are nice. The ReJ might make a deeper sounding guitar. The Ramon would be my next tho I've seen the Java boxes quite often. The others might be ok, and mostly good for solid/electric types.
One question to ask: are the lids cardboard or wood (pressed wood or plywood)? Both are ok, but one makes a more muted sound in my opinion. You might be able to tell if one you can warp with your hands, it might be the cardboard. Wood (plywood) is much stiffer. I usually can't warp the lid.
this is _my_ opinion only tho. Others will give better opinions.
-WY
Gitarmoro,
I guess that leaves the Ramon Allones... It is the only brand that I haven't built on, but if it is a typical paper covered wood box (with a paper hinge) that it appears to be, it looks like a great "starter" cigar box, that will be relatively simple to build with easy dimensions to lay out a CBG and enough size to make a good sounding CBG....
"No rules" say follow your nose or your gut or the stars. But after 200 builds, I don't like overly thick boxes, because they are ackward to hold, I don't like excessively thin boxes, because they lack resonance. Some of the best boxes are plain paper covered boxes often making great players while being simple to build on.
Let us know what you decide and definately how it comes out....
Wichita Sam
Wichita Sam said:Gitarmoro,
I guess that leaves the Ramon Allones... It is the only brand that I haven't built on, but if it is a typical paper covered wood box (with a paper hinge) that it appears to be, it looks like a great "starter" cigar box, that will be relatively simple to build with easy dimensions to lay out a CBG and enough size to make a good sounding CBG....
"No rules" say follow your nose or your gut or the stars. But after 200 builds, I don't like overly thick boxes, because they are ackward to hold, I don't like excessively thin boxes, because they lack resonance. Some of the best boxes are plain paper covered boxes often making great players while being simple to build on.
Let us know what you decide and definately how it comes out....
Wichita Sam
Thank You Wichita Sam! Now I'm undecided again. :D
As for the Zino box: Isn't it an option to just remove or just replace the front hinge and just finish the neck inside the box, thus allowing the housing to rest the proper way and avoiding the rounded edge challenge? My worries towards that one was rather the lack of size.....
I'll definately let You know. Thanks again.
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