I'm new at this social-networking thing, but i was surprised to go to that cigarbox.com web-site and find my name in the headlines for one of their articles.
umm--mmmm-mmm ??? how does that work ???
does that mean 'allowing anyone' to see what i write means that i have given them the right to copy and reprint my ( or anyone' s) comments. ????
seems odd, if not downright illegal...
certainly, morally reprehensible, and lazy .....
just so that they can avoid writing their own articles and claim they have a website ????
is this SOP for social net-works ???
did i miss something ????... zandi z.
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First off, I am not a Lawyer. These are OPINIONS only.
I guess that depends on your point of view. The 'Net' is considered for the most part a broadcast medium, and yet for most sites like this and others, your comments are owned by the site manager/owner [ie: in this case Shane Speal]. This is what gets file and music sharing sites in so much trouble.
Now, that doesn't mean that the designs, ideas, instructions, advice, comments and opinions I post here aren't inherently their originators and not subject to copyright laws, but the actual post of that information is indeed Shane's (as far as I understand).
Case in point: John Lowe makes the 'Lowebow'. It's his design, methodology and technology and he has every right to guard that information the best he can. He does not post how he makes his Lowebow AND will now allow anyone else to copy or use the name 'Lowebow'. He has the foresight to do that.
Even if he were to 'tell his secrets', those would still be his BUT he has released them to the public domain (broadcast them in effect). His posts could be used in that spirit. We enjoy that when we reply to a post with the original post quoted. Its assumed ok. BUT it's up to the user to ask permission to be used elsewhere. Heck, I even had one of my pictures reposted as someone else's. Flattering, but was still mine. I reposted one of Shane's CBGs as part of a spoof on one post here (he he he).
I am designing something based on the Cigar Box Nation red star logo. I asked permission to use that basic design element even though I didn't use it exactly. I'm so nice ain't I.
So here's the best remedy: Honestly, I wouldn't let it bother you UNLESS the use is taken out of context, libelous, harmful or slanderous, otherwise used for illegal or deceitful purposes. If it really bothers you, write to the site manager and ask for a retraction or deletion of your name or quotation. I assume its not this site that is. If they don't ... eh ... I guess you should not post to that site or close out any membership on that site, or... I dunno. Legal action would REALLY hard to enforce I would assume.
The Net is tricky like that. It's also an international medium.
every thing is borrowed from somewhere ,your name ,your job every thought that pops in your head,all been done before ,nothing original at all ,there is no-thing new under the sun .Thank conciouseness that the morals of separation are well on the way of the dodo.
every thing is borrowed from somewhere ,your name ,your job every thought that pops in your head,all been done before ,nothing original at all ,there is no-thing new under the sun .Thank conciouseness that the morals of separation are well on the way of the dodo.
First off, I am not a Lawyer. These are OPINIONS only.
I guess that depends on your point of view. The 'Net' is considered for the most part a broadcast medium, and yet for most sites like this and others, your comments are owned by the site manager/owner [ie: in this case Shane Speal]. This is what gets file and music sharing sites in so much trouble.
Now, that doesn't mean that the designs, ideas, instructions, advice, comments and opinions I post here aren't inherently their originators and not subject to copyright laws, but the actual post of that information is indeed Shane's (as far as I understand).
Case in point: John Lowe makes the 'Lowebow'. It's his design, methodology and technology and he has every right to guard that information the best he can. He does not post how he makes his Lowebow AND will now allow anyone else to copy or use the name 'Lowebow'. He has the foresight to do that.
Even if he were to 'tell his secrets', those would still be his BUT he has released them to the public domain (broadcast them in effect). His posts could be used in that spirit. We enjoy that when we reply to a post with the original post quoted. Its assumed ok. BUT it's up to the user to ask permission to be used elsewhere. Heck, I even had one of my pictures reposted as someone else's. Flattering, but was still mine. I reposted one of Shane's CBGs as part of a spoof on one post here (he he he).
I am designing something based on the Cigar Box Nation red star logo. I asked permission to use that basic design element even though I didn't use it exactly. I'm so nice ain't I.
So here's the best remedy: Honestly, I wouldn't let it bother you UNLESS the use is taken out of context, libelous, harmful or slanderous, otherwise used for illegal or deceitful purposes. If it really bothers you, write to the site manager and ask for a retraction or deletion of your name or quotation. I assume its not this site that is. If they don't ... eh ... I guess you should not post to that site or close out any membership on that site, or... I dunno. Legal action would REALLY hard to enforce I would assume.
The Net is tricky like that. It's also an international medium.
All that you touch
All that you see
All that you taste
All you feel.
All that you love
All that you hate
All you distrust
All you save.
All that you give
All that you deal
All that you buy,
beg, borrow or steal.
All you create
All you destroy
All that you do
All that you say.
All that you eat
And everyone you meet
All that you slight
And everyone you fight.
All that is now
All that is gone
All that's to come
and everything under the sun is in tune
but the sun is eclipsed by the moon.
(c) 1973 Pink Floyd
Eclipse, Dark Side of the Moon
gary martin said:every thing is borrowed from somewhere ,your name ,your job every thought that pops in your head,all been done before ,nothing original at all ,there is no-thing new under the sun .Thank conciouseness that the morals of separation are well on the way of the dodo.
It took me aback.... as far as i could tell, what was there were EXACT POSTS from this Forum Discussion group and Ted's new group.
What site was this now?
Wes, the site is "Cigar Box Guitars--Join the Revolution"...sound familiar ??
http://cigarbox.com/
do check it out... ....zandi z.
Wes Yates said:It took me aback.... as far as i could tell, what was there were EXACT POSTS from this Forum Discussion group and Ted's new group.
What site was this now?
The site you posted is a Las Vegas cigar shop, is that were your post was?
Zandi Z said:Wes, the site is "Cigar Box Guitars--Join the Revolution"...sound familiar ??
http://cigarbox.com/
do check it out... ....zandi z.
Wes Yates said:It took me aback.... as far as i could tell, what was there were EXACT POSTS from this Forum Discussion group and Ted's new group.
What site was this now?
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