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SOUND QUESTION

I am making a guitar for my Grandson. I'm putting the little tin pictured below in it, mostly for decoration. The top of the tin will project slightly through the top of the guitar. The tin is about 3 1/8" in diameter and about 1" deep. I'm wondering what kind of sound I would get if I put a piezo inside the tin. Any idea?

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Permalink Reply by NoxTerran on January 2, 2010 at 1:40pm

i actually have issues with piezo's inside tins, they are SOOOOO sensative to every tone level that it actually causes feedback something horrible, you can nuke alot of it by switching to a cb rather than a tine, but that is a NICE tin and would love to see the guitar you make out of it. well thats my 2 cents, dont spend it all in one place

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Permalink Reply by Mark Werner on January 2, 2010 at 1:52pm

Easy to experiment; you might try isolating the piezo a bit by mounting it with two-sided foam tape, foam, or 3m silicone.
I used the silicone to mount the piezo to my resonator, and it works fine.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Doug on January 2, 2010 at 3:21pm

This is the placement of the tin. My Grandson wants it all black, so the neck and all will be black. The bridge will be between the tin and the end of the guitar.

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Permalink Reply by RL Mott on January 2, 2010 at 5:11pm

I'd punch a small hole in the can's bottom half ( a finishing nail would work for piezo wires) and try it with doublestick . Worst case is desoldering the wires & moving it to the box .

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Permalink Reply by Bluesheart on January 3, 2010 at 6:09pm

Wow Paul, I love this build. I would think a piezo inside the tin would be too sensitive, but in the box will still give a good acoustic sound I think. Mind telling where you got the tin, and then , mind if I steal your design!? Really like how you did this one!!!!

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Permalink Reply by Paul Doug on January 4, 2010 at 3:37am

Thanks for the comments. Got the tin off e-bay for around $4. They are posted there quite often. Go a search on "tin"

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Permalink Reply by Keith Parmer on January 4, 2010 at 10:26am

I would try to immerse it in silicone inside the can, just a blob under and over it, and see if that works.

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Permalink Reply by Oliver González on January 4, 2010 at 11:26pm

Hello Paul,
The piezo will amplify whatever it "hears", so if the bridge will be placed in the tin ala "resonator" put eh piezo in the tin inside; if not this way, then put the piezo inside the sounboard.

I made a year ago a 3 string guitar with a sweets tin acting as a cone and tryed a small cheap piezo pickup on it and sounded really like a resonator; obviously a cheapo one.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Doug on January 5, 2010 at 6:43am

Bluesheart, Not just like mine, (didn't find one like mine but there will be) but still a nice one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Grateful-Dead-STEAL-YOUR-FACE-LP-Round-Stash-Ti...

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Permalink Reply by Keith Parmer on January 6, 2010 at 3:09am

Paul,....any luck with the can?

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Permalink Reply by Paul Doug on January 6, 2010 at 4:02am

HA ha, Keith I haven't got any futher on this build. I'm a little on the S L O W side! I have just toooo many interests. Spent the last three days setting up a sharpening jig to sharpen my lathe tools with. I bought the jig last march.

Keith Parmer said:

Paul,....any luck with the can?

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Permalink Reply by Keith Parmer on January 6, 2010 at 5:24am

Don't feel bad, I have way to many interests myself, it's hard for me to get focused sometimes, I have guitars that I haven't completed yet that I've been working on for months.