strung this 3 string puppy up with one string, to test, tuned to G, and it's pretty flabby.

I put a D'Addario Nickel wound 32 (acoustic or electric) string on this 3 string I'm working with, tuned it to G, because that's what was recommended for my lap steel, and it sounds kinda flabby and dead.  25.5" nut to bridge, 34" tuner to tailpiece.  1x2 oak neck, fiberboard box (approx 3"x7"x7"), one 1.5" hole in the top.

1/4" bolt for nut, 1/2" bolt for bridge.

 

Wide changes in note value with turns of tuner at this tension.  It got about at tight as on my lapsteel when I had it tuned to the E above this G value, but was starting to feel too tight at that point.  Lapsteel has a shorter nut to bridge length, 21".  I guess maybe that's it right there, longer playing length on the diddley means lower pitch for same tension.

 

Any other ideas?

 

Any suggestions for gauges for a GDG tuning, maybe in the mid-range, not high.  Maybe this should be my D string.  I want to play this both fingered and slide.  No frets right now.  Maybe none ever.  Photo included.  Sorry for the low light.  Well, the photo didn't show in the preview.  Let's see if it shows when I post.

 

What would be a suggested nut and bridge height for an unfretted slide/finger guitar?

Views: 562

Attachments:

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Just make the next one with the bridge closer to the string ends and you will be fine no matter what the scale length. 1.5 to 2 inches from the bridge to the tailpiece seems to work for me. Look at my picture on my page to see what I mean. Mine are 24" scale just for reference.

Pardon me for thinking like Pythagorus, but, I now see why you want the tailpiece connect points as near the bridge as possible.  The downward force is going to be the ratio of the height (sine) to the hypoteneuse, if my one or two engineering classes from 45 years ago are still telling me anything intelligent.

So, the nearer the tailpiece to the bridge, the more downward pressure on the box top by the bridge.

Say, I don't have much of a woodshop right now.  How did you cut the finger joints on the corners of one of those boxes I saw on your profile.  Seemed there was only two fingers near the center of the corner.

I'm downstairs right now using a hand miter saw jig to cut the corners of a box I'm building because it was going to cost me too much money to go the finger joint route.  I don't have a table saw at the moment.  Just a router table, and I'm still setting that up.  I know how I can do box joints with the router, but still need to get there, build the setup, etc.  Haven't touched it in years.

A .032 gauge is good for around a "D" on that scale, so either tune it to a D, or change the gauge.

 

For a  low G you'll want something like a .044, or a high G about an .023

 

By the way, that Strothers link is for Dulcimers and the string gauges are totally inappropriate for guitars in my view.

at someone's suggestion, I picked up a 44, 34 and 26.  haven't put them on yet though.  I want to prepare the wood first (sand, spray, sand, spray).
Pardon me for thinking like  Archimedes, but "Eureka!" now your getting somewhere! LOL!

RSS

The Essential Pages

New to Cigar Box Nation? How to Play Cigar Box GuitarsFree Plans & How to Build Cigar Box GuitarsCigar Box Guitar Building Basics

Site Sponsor

Recommended Links & Resources


Forum

crossover guitar.

Started by Timothy Hunter in Other stuff - off topic, fun stuff, whatever. Last reply by Timothy Hunter Apr 10. 14 Replies

Tune up songs

Started by Ghostbuttons in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Timothy Hunter Mar 9. 5 Replies

Duel output jacks

Started by Justin Stanchfield in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Taffy Evans Mar 8. 6 Replies

Latest Activity

Bobthrubass commented on Bobthrubass's status
"I know I'm logged in but I got a new laptop and I can't log in cause I can't…"
1 hour ago
BrianQ. commented on Bobthrubass's status
"You seemed to be successfully logged in? But you need to notify the moderator, because he probably…"
1 hour ago
BrianQ. liked Uncle John's photo
1 hour ago
Doug Thorsvik commented on Uncle John's photo
Thumbnail

Chugger Review 2nd from left

"Glad to see you have added a Chugger to your cigar box instrument ensemble! Looks like a fine…"
2 hours ago
Uncle John posted a photo

Chugger Review 2nd from left

Got my Chugger done a while back. It is second from the left in the photo.It uses a 3D printer fret…
4 hours ago
Doug Thorsvik commented on Doug Thorsvik's video
Thumbnail

Shout with Joy to God: 2-String Chugger License Plate Cigar Box Guitar

"Thanks Uncle John! And, yes, I did put the psalm to music using my 6-string years ago (back in my…"
5 hours ago
Bobthrubass posted a status
"Sorry I haven"t been on here awhile. PLEASE let me Reset my PASSWORD!!!!!"
6 hours ago
Uncle John commented on Doug Thorsvik's video
Thumbnail

Shout with Joy to God: 2-String Chugger License Plate Cigar Box Guitar

"Very good.  Original song- did you put the psalm to music,  Doug?"
7 hours ago
Uncle John commented on Poorness Studios's video
7 hours ago
Uncle John commented on Dogleg Steve's video
Thumbnail

Fiddly Rag from the book Cigar Box Picking by Dogleg Steve

"Another very good one.  Thanks, Steve."
7 hours ago
Uncle John commented on Dogleg Steve's video
7 hours ago
Uncle John commented on Dogleg Steve's video
Thumbnail

My entry for C B Gitty's 4th International Cigar Box video playoffs 2023 Dogleg Steve St Martins Rag

"Good to see and hear you, Steve!  Sounding very fine.   A bright and happy song.…"
7 hours ago

Music

© 2024   Created by Ben "C. B. Gitty" Baker.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service

\uastyle>\ud/** Scrollup **/\ud.scrollup {\ud background: url("https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/963882636?profile=original") no-repeat scroll 0 0 transparent;\ud bottom: 25px;\ud display: inline !important;\ud height: 40px;\ud opacity: 0.3 !important;\ud position: fixed;\ud right: 30px;\ud text-indent: -9999px;\ud width: 40px;\ud z-index: 999;\ud}\ud.scrollup:hover {\ud opacity:0.99!important;\ud}\ud \uascript type="text/javascript">\ud x$(document).ready(function(){\ud x$(window).scroll(function(){\ud if (x$(this).scrollTop() > 100) {\ud x$('.scrollup').fadeIn();\ud } else {\ud x$('.scrollup').fadeOut();\ud }\ud });\ud x$('.scrollup').click(function(){\ud x$("html, body").animate({ scrollTop: 0 }, 600);\ud return false;\ud });\ud });\ud \ua!-- End Scroll Up -->