Cigar box saz or setar

  I'm thinking about building something a bit on the exotic side. I've been searching for information on the Turkish baglama (saz) and the Persian setar. The long narrow necks and 3 courses seem a natural for a cigar box build. It's been tough to find much information on these instruments. Most of what I have is from wikipedia: 

Baglama

Setar

The setar article gives fret placements in cm while the baglama article gives the scale in ratios. I really have no idea how to translate ratios into fret distances. The article also has a link to a what appears to be a fret calculator:

turkuler

Either it's not working or I don't know how to use it because I can't get anything out of it.

Has anyone made one of these?

Any comments and suggestions would be most welcome.

Thanks,

Roger

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Permalink Reply by Keith Rearick on February 26, 2021 at 12:15pm

Do a search, others have built them before. Then you could contact them for info.

Permalink Reply by Roger Coleman on February 26, 2021 at 7:35pm

Permalink Reply by Keith Rearick on February 27, 2021 at 7:20am

When posting comments, after you type what you want, then click the HTML Editor, to post your comment. Then it will post. Otherwise, it doesn't show in comments.

Permalink Reply by the anonymous pick on February 26, 2021 at 8:19pm
Permalink Reply by Roger Coleman on February 27, 2021 at 6:16am

Permalink Reply by Roger Coleman on March 1, 2021 at 1:06pm

Permalink Reply by the anonymous pick on March 1, 2021 at 1:21pm

Permalink Reply by Roger Coleman on March 1, 2021 at 1:26pm

Thanks Keith! I was wondering what the problem was. Not very obvious (to me anyway).

The only example of a cigar box saz I could find is Thorsten Hinrichen's "Silvestra" here on Cigar Box Nation. I was able to make contact with him. 

I have also found some other information, mostly in Turkish, but some of it is decipherable.

The baglama template appears to be for a Greek baglama, a different beast which doesn't have the quartertones of the Turkish.

Permalink Reply by the anonymous pick on March 1, 2021 at 1:31pm

ah .. i may have pooped that link .  ok . ill see if i can find a saz template .

lol.. funny . i just informed you also about the html thing .. and forgot to do it myself . lol.

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