i found an old jack and a couple of piezo's hanging about at the bottom of my tool box, so i thought i might as well put it in. No skin of my nose, all it adds is a jack on the underside rib. I didn't bother putting any knobs on because i didn't want to spoil the look of the violin. I'll glue the element to the top, just under the bridge before i seal the lid down.

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Comment by St Ginger on April 16, 2012 at 5:09am

blimey, so much choice!! I have finally fixed up the neck and re glued it so i will test it out tomorrow once the glue is fully cured. I like the idea of wood slabs to keep the tone bright, but wouldn't it still get lots of feedback? so far the foam idea is my favorite.

Comment by Ron "Oily" Sprague on April 16, 2012 at 2:31am

St Ginger,

 

If you don't sandwich it and glue it between two thin slabs of wood, and sit it right under your bridge (method 1), then you could lay down a bed of hot glue, insert the piexzo, and dump some more hot glue on top of that (method 2), or do the same thing, except no glue, with clear or white bathtub silicone (method 3). There are also the double stick tape method, the foam wrap method, and the rhythm method. >:-E

 

Comment by St Ginger on April 15, 2012 at 1:00pm

there's a big discussion going on on one of my other pictures about my problems with the action of the neck. but once that is fixed i will give it a test and find the sweet spot :D

I'm planning to glue a small bit of sleeping roll foam or something to the underside of the top, then glue the piezo to the foam. would that help with the feed back and unwanted noise?

should i cover the TOP of the piezo with hot glue as well, seal it onto the top?

Comment by Hippy Chip on April 15, 2012 at 2:50am

go with your first idea--- hot glue it to the lid right under the bridge---use a nice thick bed of glue and you will minimize feedback---I have built nearly 30 piezo guitars, and they all sound great!

Comment by the anonymous pick on April 15, 2012 at 1:18am

close to the  bridge  is  usually a good rule of thumb  . i  dont really  like  piezos  ,  but  a light  foam    wrap  worked for me  best on   one build .  lukey i  had  good  tape .

hot glue seems to be popular .

 

Comment by Ron "Oily" Sprague on April 15, 2012 at 1:18am

Put the piezo in your first most likely spot, right under the bridge, with some double stick tape. Clamp your top down with some edge clamps. Add bridge / saddle and strings. Rinse, repeat until you find your sweet spot. Then you can glue it down, once you are ready to put the top on for keeps.

Comment by St Ginger on April 15, 2012 at 12:57am

the problem is that it needs to be attached to the underside of the top, but in order to have the strings on the top needs gluing down. the sound holes aren't big enough to get in there and work on it with the top on, so i need to do it before i seal her up. 

any idea how i could find a good spot, or a general rule of thumb for placement, without testing it? i'm not really bothered about the quality too much, its going to be primarily acoustic. and what wouldd you say about attaching the piezo; layer of foam, piezo, hard glue in a sandwhich? 

Comment by the anonymous pick on April 15, 2012 at 12:32am

i wouldnt  glue that  piezo down before  you  find a sweet spot  , and  test it for feedback   etc  with the strings on  .. you  may want to   cover it in  hot glue ,  tool  dip,   or   foam .  they can  get  pretty sensitive .

most  like to at least  put a layer  of foam between the  wood and the piezo .

this   avoids   sqealtch ,, feedback  and  unwanted noise .   

Comment by St Ginger on April 14, 2012 at 1:45pm

me too  :D  never used them really, i didn't realise how simple and easy they are.

Comment by Uncle John on April 14, 2012 at 1:27pm

I like piezos.

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