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Comment by the anonymous pick on August 6, 2017 at 4:02am

lol.. well . have fun  .. lotsa good info  from Mark  , Don , etc.

so you should be covered  what ever way you decide to go  .  i just gave you the way that  cuts out  all the concerns  . ;-)

Comment by Slow Blues Dani & Ol' Grey Bear on August 6, 2017 at 3:13am

Thanks Pick. I hadn't said up until this point but I'm thinking a three or four string bass along with either four or six regular guitar strings for a total of 7-10 strings on one build. I don't like making my life too easy do I? Haha.

Not sure yet as I'm still bouncing ideas around in the old grey matter lol. I actually have no idea how I'm going to do it but I'm going to try! I have the four bass tuning pegs, the four string adjustable bass saddle, six tuning pegs and a block of wood to get started with. Like I say though, no idea which way I'm going to go with this but I'd like to TRY playing bass and standard guitar at the same time.

I never said I was sane lol. Thanks for the help and advice Pick. I appreciate it greatly.

Comment by the anonymous pick on August 6, 2017 at 2:52am

Danni Bear-

 As a "safer" alternative  , you  can get away  with a 2 to 4   stringer  short scale bass / hybrid     , using  the fat  strings  from a special drop d guitar  string pack  . they will still  fit the  regular tuners  , and  a good piece of oak will  be  sufficient for a  regular 25.5  scale through neck  (which is still within  a bass conversion scale too). (actually  some folks convert their regular teles  to a shortscale bass ). you can add your 1 bass to a regular  3 stringer  and still use the same pickup  and not worry  too much about murdering your "guitar" amp speaker too .

(i've done a couple that way )  2 and 3 stringers basses  .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7miRgfydVtQ

http://www.cigarboxnation.com/video/swamp-witch-2-string-bass-guita...

( string pack brand)

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/GHS-Boomers-Electric-Guitar-Strings-GBZW-he...

(i'd use the .52)

as you can see . it sounds like a bass.

hope that helps . 

 

Comment by Slow Blues Dani & Ol' Grey Bear on August 6, 2017 at 2:31am

Thanks Mark. That's always an option with the batteries. I'll have a look around, do some research and maybe pop to the local music shop or give them a call. It makes sense that you'd need something beefier to handle the bass side of things so definitely some investigation needed I think.

Thanks again and enjoy the rest of the day. Much appreciated :o)

Comment by Mark Bliss on August 6, 2017 at 2:26am

"Any recommendations on a cheap but decent sounding, battery operated bass amp?"

Just have to keep it complicated.... LOL!

I am not up to date on what's on the market in this realm Bear, but here's some thoughts anyway.

Ideally, bass needs some amp overhead to really work well. IE: You really do need more wattage than a regular guitar amp to get good results. I used to have a Roland bass cube, and 30 watts really didn't quite cut it when playing with others. So I am skeptical about getting good results out of the "typical" battery operated practice amp style rig. And "cheap" is up for interpretation. I don't think there's a great cheap solution personally, but there may be ways to do this well without getting too carried away.

But..... I recently witnessed a street performance utilizing an amp for guitar that made me take notice. The artist had two moderate sized auto batteries in a "milk crate" wired to a medium sized DC/AC inverter that he had tie wrapped to the side of the crate. It wouldn't be light, but then neither is a proper amp..... Dani needs something to carry anyway right? LOL!

I wasn't sure how this would work, but I peaked and after playing at least 1 1/2 hours, the inverter was still displaying over 12v input. It works!

Comment by Slow Blues Dani & Ol' Grey Bear on August 6, 2017 at 2:07am

Thanks Don and Mark. I'm going to take your advice about the two outputs and no potentiometers. I'll do what I can to get a bass amp for separate controls too. I'd need the bass amp to be battery operated so that I can grow with it if I ever get to public performance level. Any recommendations on a cheap but decent sounding, battery operated bass amp? I do have two channels on my current amp but the second is only a mic input. It has a separate volume and mic trim but I highly doubt it will work for a bass amp lol.

Thanks for your help and advice guys. I really appreciate it.

Bear :o)

Comment by Mark Bliss on August 6, 2017 at 1:39am

I'd have to agree with Don here, it would be best IMO to have two outputs.

Two different tones, two different needs. Best results would probably come from a dedicated amp set up to be honest. Guitar amps aren't great for bass. Best choices would vary depending on the sound you are going after. I might want some reverb on a guitar but not the bass for example.

Comment by Don Tucker on August 6, 2017 at 1:28am

Hey Bear, have you considered having no knobs, just 2 outputs? The guy from Moreland and Arbuckle has his hybrid CBG with a single bass string and 3 guitar strings wired like this. He either runs to 2 separate amps or a single 2 channel amp. This way he has separate volume and tone controls for the bass string and the guitar strings. It works well for him, check them out on youtube.

Comment by Slow Blues Dani & Ol' Grey Bear on August 5, 2017 at 8:18pm

Oh to clarify the hybrid question, Mark, I'm talking about using a bass pickup(s) under the bass strings and a guitar pickup under the guitar strings on the same guitar. A bastar? A Guiass?

Comment by Slow Blues Dani & Ol' Grey Bear on August 5, 2017 at 8:14pm

Thanks for replying Mark. You answered my main question by saying you're a fan of wiring the bass and guitar pickup straight to jack without pots. That would certainly simplify things! Never done it like that before but I appreciate the info and the knowledge that a bass and a guitar could be wired to the same output. I searched the all mighty and powerful Oracle called Google and found some people saying double necks should have separate outputs and then someone saying they can be done together (or should be done separately and should be done separately on different sites). I think I may just hotwire them to the jack socket as you suggest and let the amp sort them out lol. Thanks again Mark :)

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