Hi,

 

I am aware that to tune a six string as the scale gets shorter the strings either have to be tuned to a higher pitch or the strings need to get fatter.  I managed to tune my uke to DGBE by using hard tension classical strings from 2 strings over (low E used for D, A for the G, D for the B and G for the highE) and this works well on the 14 inch scale.

 

I recently picked up a cymbala/lap harp off ebay which uses 40 gauge piano wire and was thinking of trying to make a short scale fretted travel guitar with 6 strings with as small a scale as possible using piano wire - thickest I can easily get is .051 diameter (size23).

Available sizes are  

Available diameter sizes of wires:-

  • Size  00        .008
  • Size  0          .009
  • Size  1          .010
  • Size  3          .012
  • Size  5          .014
  • Size  6          .016
  • Size  7          .018
  • Size  8          .020
  • Size  9          .022
  • Size  10        .024
  • Size  11        .026
  • Size  12        .028
  • Size  12.5     .029
  • Size  13        .030
  • Size  13.5     .031
  • Size  14        .032
  • Size  14.5     .033
  • Size  15        .034
  • Size  15.5     .035
  • Size  16        .036
  • Size  16.5     .037
  • Size  17        .038
  • Size  17.5     .039
  • Size  18        .040
  • Size  18.5     .041
  • Size  19        .042
  • Size  19.5     .043
  • Size  20        .044
  • Size  20.5     .045
  • Size  21        .046
  • Size  22        .048
  • Size  23        .051

Like the cymbala I was thinking of using 1 gauge of wire to tune for 2 strings (tuning peg upto wrap around pin and back to other tuning peg).  I was going to stick to standard guitar tuning EADGBE and was hoping somebody out there could give me an idea of how short a scale I can use?

 

Regards,

David

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David, This vid was the inspiration for my short scale instruments. Awesome homemade guitar. Notice the guitar is capoed at the fifth fret as I described earlier on? I thought well heck, just shorten the scale then. Guitars like the Traveler are trying to be as short as possible hence the body mounted tuners.
A very intersting/imformative thread. I am finding you cant put guitar strings on small scaled CBG's the guitar strings are not made for short scales, the higher/thinner the string the tighter it has to be to produce the same note and them the tight string overpowers the rest in voluem. I guess the uke strings are made for the shorter scale Cheers Ron.
The shortest I've built a guitar for standard tuning is 21 inch scale, and this needs pretty heavy strings. Any shorter than this and the string gauges get very heavy - there's an optimium tension for strings, and if you are well under this you may run into intonation problems. Making a short scale guitar and tuning it higher (as if using a capo) isn't too much of a problem.

Using piano wire seems like a bad idea - why use piano wire? Guitar strings are available in a wide range of gauges and they are cheap. Plain piano wire will be awful to string up with, especially anything over a 025 gauge, as it just won't want to bend round the machineheads and conform to the bridge (a wound string of the same gauge will have a much skinnier core).
Don:
Thanks for posting this. I've been kicking around a concept for a solid bodied, travel sized, tenor ukulele for a while now. My idea is very simular to this, but with a 17" scale and a total instrument length of 20". My goal is to also incorporate an onboard headphone amp with eq and a compressor. The challenge is figuring out where to fit everything.

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