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Permalink Reply by Wes "I'm Baaaaack" Yates on December 14, 2010 at 1:06am

Huzza!

 

-WY

Keni Lee Burgess said:

I simply look at "No Rules" as "No Limitations".

Working within and beyond the conventional standard approaches.

Do what you want. Wander where you desire.

Certainly when breaking rules, you will be faced with the consequences of your actions.

If you can face adversity with a smile, you are bound to break through into some uncharted territory and walk down that "road less traveled" by yourself.

It is basically facing the Kobayashi Maru, if you know what I mean. LOL

I teach, but essentially I don't want my students to follow. I follow my teachers, but essentially I don't expect them to lead.

A good teacher puts the student out in front. He points the way. He does not shield them from making their own mistakes, but helps them to learn from them.

Answer questions to the best of your ability, but encourage people to seek things greater than yourself.

Enjoy the struggle my brothers.

 

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Permalink Reply by John Zant on December 14, 2010 at 1:28am

I'm a newb at building this things....that being said I have some moderate experience at woodworking, nothing earth shattering, but I can build a thing or two.  In my search for cigar boxes I came across another 'cigar box guitar' in the first smokeshop I looked in for available boxes. It's a guitar. I can't remember the box, but it does have a mass produced fender style 6 string neck on it. It was sitting in the corner behind the smokeshop counter. When I came in a couple weeks later with my first three string p.o.s. poplar necked cbg...well that seemed to catch the patrons attention. It surely wasn't as polished as the thing behind the counter with it's nice fender saddles and neck, but I think the authenticity of what I achieved versus what the other builder achieved were light years apart. I understand the no rules approach, but my rule is to make each one better than the last, and to make something that sounds as good as I can possibly make it sound. I'm pretty sure that involves sweating that neck thing out to the last detail. I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground, but I'm having a lot of fun building em........my .02

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Permalink Reply by Bob Harrison on December 14, 2010 at 3:28am

Yep, thats what I ment.

Wes "Blind Lemon Pledge" Yates said:

Huzza!

 

-WY

Keni Lee Burgess said:

I simply look at "No Rules" as "No Limitations".

Working within and beyond the conventional standard approaches.

Do what you want. Wander where you desire.

Certainly when breaking rules, you will be faced with the consequences of your actions.

If you can face adversity with a smile, you are bound to break through into some uncharted territory and walk down that "road less traveled" by yourself.

It is basically facing the Kobayashi Maru, if you know what I mean. LOL

I teach, but essentially I don't want my students to follow. I follow my teachers, but essentially I don't expect them to lead.

A good teacher puts the student out in front. He points the way. He does not shield them from making their own mistakes, but helps them to learn from them.

Answer questions to the best of your ability, but encourage people to seek things greater than yourself.

Enjoy the struggle my brothers.

 

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Permalink Reply by Wes "I'm Baaaaack" Yates on December 15, 2010 at 1:12am

Example of what Keni says:

 

Avant Guarde build - AKA off the beatern path

 

-WY

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Permalink Reply by Bob Harrison on December 15, 2010 at 2:20am

In conclusion to what I said early. There are no rules as far as using a pre carved neck or not, end of story.

Here’s my saged advice from being in the music business for 50 years plus years. Build your instrument with any type of parts you like. The more instruments you build and the better you learn to play your playing and instruments will likely evolve with you.

Might I add, as far as I know there are no rules for using CNC factory made Fender or Gibson knock of parts with a high quality custom neck either. Follow your heart to use a pre caved neck or not.

Cheers

Bob

Wichita Sam said:

Josh,

 

"No Rules" mantra doesn't change the laws of physics.... the octave is 1/2 the scale length...PERIOD.

 

Beyond that new builders can always benefit from an experienced builder's opinions... even if later on they decide to go a different way.  What cracks me up is when a builder with 3 builds slams the opinion of a salty veteran, just because the veteran does something in a way that isn't conventional or obvious at first glance. 

 

Finally... joke....joke.... "what do red Mustang coupes, noses and opinions have in common?"    answer... "Everbody has one."

 

and that's my opinion....

 

the best,

 

Wichita Sam

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Permalink Reply by Gadsden Guitars on December 15, 2010 at 4:00am

HEh, heh, yeh, "I used to be conceited, but now I'm perfect"!

Wes "Moanin' Mule" Yates said:

Sure, and you point out that we should propose person experience and that is absolute. On that tho, I do think that having sooooo many active Citizens here on the Nation, its easy to give opinions, opposing opinions, and directives that I think we (collectively) temper ourselves in that we don't want to stiefel any creativity on the new builders part. That's my take on it. 'course then again, I could be mistaken.

 

"I thought I was wrong once, but I was just mistaken."

 

-WY

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