Hi Guys
This is my first 3 string CBG build , i'm used to building full size electric guitars so the build part is ok , what i'm not so sure about the piezo , where to place it ? , should it be encased or open ? would it be okay to use 2 instead of 1 , hope somebody can help me with this , Thanks .
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Take it out of the plastic case if it has one. Use hot glue and attach it to the underside of the lid, near the bridge, on the bass side. If you use two, wire them in parallel.
Hi thanks for the reply's guys , i thouht i would have got more reply's than 2 ! , two different placements here , 1 under the lid and 1 under the bridge , i thought fixng it under the lid would pick up all the taps and knocks from the as well as the string vibration ? , would it work glued under the neck blank in either the neck or bridge position ,the supplier i use in the UK tells me that they work better uncased in thin ply , so i don't know that to do here ?
Piezos are totally vibration based, so it will be hard to isolate all non-string noise. If you do like Terry suggested and bore a hole in the bottom of the bridge, it will cut down some of the hand and neck noise. Piezos are also microphonic and tend to feed back, so isolating them by sandwiching them between pieces of wood will help.
Been boring a shallow hole in a piece of hardwood and hot gluing a 27 mm piezo in the bottom and mounting a threaded brass rod on for my bridge, works pretty good.
I only use the disc piezo in these two types of bridges...right; incased in a bridge base with bone rod saddle and my full bone carved saddle bridge, this has the disc imbedded in hot glue in a chamber on the underside of the bone. You want the best sound [ in my opinion ] use a rod piezo pickup. The rod is layed in a slot in the bridge base with a bone saddle atop.
Rod piezo bridge; wood bridge base has an 1/8" wide slot [ the rod is 1/8" wide ] the rod lays into the slot and a bone saddle lays atop the rod. You want a snug fit but not tight ! The rod works from string pressure on the saddle. The rod gives a much fuller sound with no unwanted noise from handling the box or neck. It`s the pickup in between a piezo disc and a mag pickup. But a very easy install and no string grounding issues to worry about.
Thanks for the info and pics , thats a great help , i've ordered a rod piezo but it's 70mm long sorry 2.75 ins so is it that easy to cut it the size you want ? , i'm building a fretted 3 string with a 6mm (1/4in ) fret board so the bridge won't be that high i dont know if i'll have enough height the bridge will be only 5/8in high in total including the bone saddle , i'll keep you posted then the piezo arrives .
The rod piezo arrived and the other bits i wanted , because of the hight issue with the bridge i can't get the piezo and the bone saddle inside the bridge so would it be ok to lay the piezo on top of the lid and sit the bridge on top ? that will give me a extra 1/16in to play with or will that pick up sounds from the lid ?,.
How easy is it to cut the rod piezo to a shorter length ? .
They can be cut, carefully...i use a pair of sidecutters and snip it on the side instead of on the top. Best to test the piezo after you cut it to make sure it`s still working correctly. What i do when i make my bridge bases, is to have a slot for the rod about 5/16" -3/8" deep. The rod is 3/16" high so that leaves you enough to use a different height saddle and still have enough of it left in the bridge slot to hold it up. When my customers get a rod bridge from me i give them a saddle thats higher then what they ask for so they can dail in the action on there own by just sanding the saddle down and adjusting the depth of the slot on the saddle. In a few weeks C.B.Gitty will be carrying my line of custom rod bridges.
They look very cool, what will the price point be
Here's the finished bridge in the pic above , 7mm hardwood with a slot right the way through , the rod piezo sits on top of the lid and the bridge fits over the top , works very well glad i went with the rod piezo , the smallest Amp i have is 30watt sounds great on overdrive , very very loud , i'll post pics of CBG when it's complete .
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