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Comment by Bad Finger (Eric) on January 9, 2015 at 2:27am

In terms of economics, a collective race to the bottom of obtainable pricing is never a fun exercise and in my experience with competitive markets, it is hardly the only option. That being said, I'm happy selling guitars is not my sole means of putting dinner on the table. It simply satisfies my quest for continued learning and self improvement.

Comment by Ron "Oily" Sprague on January 8, 2015 at 4:01am

I prefer to think of it as an involuntary mental response.

Comment by John Roberts on January 7, 2015 at 4:05pm

Ron:

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Comment by Ron "Oily" Sprague on January 7, 2015 at 4:01pm

Thanks for the basic economics lesson. For your next trick, play She'll Be Comin' Round The Mountain through the nose of the person sitting next to you. It's snot what you think...>:-E

Yes, I have a sophomoric sense of humor. Sometimes.

Comment by John Roberts on January 7, 2015 at 12:28pm

Wayfinder:

Very funny. Thanks.

Comment by John Roberts on January 7, 2015 at 11:26am

Ron:

The initial price may be set by the seller, but the buyer determines the final price in the transaction.

If you are selling X at a certain price point, and you have no customers, then you have two choices:

1. Lower the price until you are able to attract customers. Or........

2. Eventually go out of business.

Comment by Ron "Oily" Sprague on January 6, 2015 at 4:38pm

Position: There are more CBGs out there, of higher quality, than there ever were.

Position: Hip hop and rap are not to my taste. However, there is creativity in those styles, both lyrically, and percussively.

Position: Pricing is determined by the seller, and the buyer (s, if any). Some people sell better than others. Some build better than others. The Chinese can build a CBG for under $50. So can you, with...cheap Chinese parts. Or found cast offs.

Position: No Rules follows conventional spelling. In the spirit of anarchy contained within its message, and following what is now Hip Hop convention, it should be spelled No Rulz.

Comment by John Roberts on January 6, 2015 at 4:17pm

Wayfinder:

I totally agree, everything is hip hop or pop in the music world these days. That is because those in control have  decided that this is where they can make the most profit, so that is what gets the big push. 

Americans have been conditioned to go for price and not quality. And that is just how it is.  In addition, we are entering into a world wide deflationary cycle, which will compress margins further. It will become a buyers market as each day passes.

Pricing has to do with perception. It it is deemed desirable it commands a better price. However, one cannot charge more than the market will allow. The price is really set by the consumer. I would imaging that those who sell CBGs for $150.00 move a lot more instruments that those who price their product at double that price point. 

As a consumer and not a builder, I was very happy to purchase my first CBG for 175.00 (Fed-ex shipping included). Padron body, maple neck and fret board, hum bucker pick up, and Sprague orange drop capacitor. The builder appears to be able to move a fair amount of these on ebay, and I am happy for him. Could he get more for these? Probably the answer is yes, but he would likely move less product. Which approach would get him the greatest monthly return? I don't have that answer.

And I don't think you derailed the thread. These things tend to take on a life of their own, and I rather like that.

Comment by John Roberts on January 6, 2015 at 2:36pm

Phrygian Kid:

I have seen a Gretsch Bo Diddley signature cigar box guitar. 6 string model and priced at $3,100. I don't know where it is made. 

I just did a quick search of the online guitar sellers in the US, and no one sells cigar box guitars. I believe Guitar Center has one for sale a few years ago, but no more. So, if it was a Chinese made CBG (and I don't know that it was), it was a flop. So, I will stand by my original statement. The Chinese are not interested in mass producing CBGs for the American market. The market for such a product is too small, or the profit margin does not justify the effort.

Comment by The Phrygian Kid on January 6, 2015 at 2:19pm

And that's saying something, cos I've written some FUCKING CORKERS eh :D

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