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Comment by Chris Lyons on October 19, 2017 at 5:16am
And thanks for the props everybody. I'm going to post pics here in a little while.
Comment by Chris Lyons on October 19, 2017 at 5:14am
Okay so I knew all that and had watched the Gitty show about bridging a capacitor between the lugs on your jack. I learned that from gitty. Now last year quite by accident, I had a safety circuit coming off the ground lug because I did need a grounding wire somehow I accidentally touched the safety circuit from ground to hot and I'd noticed the sound didn't get cut. So I took the wire off and bridged the safety circuit between the lugs on the output jack. That eliminated the need for a grounding wire. I'll post pics with demos so people can grasp what I'm saying better. And see its not all that difficult.
Comment by Chris Lyons on October 19, 2017 at 5:05am
I've heard of players getting injured badly Or even dying on stage. Now if wherever youre at has faulty wiring Or youre in wet conditions a safety circuit is a great thing to have. If you have those adapters that go from 3 prongs to 2, youre not grounded. If a shock is headed your way it will not get safely drawn to ground it will get drawn to you. There's 3-4 dollar outlet testers at the hardware store that will tell you if whatever outlet you're testing is grounded properly.
Comment by Chris Lyons on October 19, 2017 at 4:59am
You're welcome but that being way above your level is nonsense. It sounds tricky but were only talking about capacitors, resistors, jacks and string grounds. Most electric guitars have the strings grounded. Not with active pickups that use a 9 volt Or piezos. Guitars have a wire touching the bridge so you hear a buzzing sound when you touch the strings the noise goes away. So what Adrian Legg's book suggests is to have the capacitor and resistor wired between the string ground on the output jack and the bridge whatever happens to be touching the strings so if a shock comes through its going to pass through that safety circuit before it gets to the strings you're touching. Anyone who plays through an amp should be concerned about shock hazards.
Comment by Chick Who Tinkers on October 19, 2017 at 1:51am

Wow Chris, thanks for the explanation. Way above the level I'm at, but great to hear :-)

Comment by Maddog on October 18, 2017 at 11:29am

Nice CL! Love the wood grain in the fretboard!

Comment by Chris Lyons on October 18, 2017 at 5:07am
Adrian Legg's book "Customizing Your Electric Guitar" suggests adding a saftey feature between your strings and the ground. Wire in Parallel a 220k ohm resistor and a .001 capacitor with a minimum voltage rating of 500 volts. If a shock is headed your way only about 40 volts are getting through. The string ground still functions too. I upped the circuit by using a 0.22 capacitor instead of the .001. I started bridging those between the lugs on the out put jack to avoid the string ground all together.
Comment by Chris Lyons on October 18, 2017 at 4:55am
I've also used a similar method to avoid string grounding a guit. Basically I've soldered various resistors and capacitors together and bridged them between the ground and hot lugs on the jack. I've done this quite a bit with the Shane Speal Snake Oil pickup. I do this to avoid using a string ground because its a shock hazard. The right size resistor and capacitor bridged on your jack, you'll get a nice Warm sound with great distortion without a string ground or grounding noise. Like with taming the piezo some can take too much sound out of it. It will still sound nice and warm but maybe too much highs or distortion can be taken away with certain combos.
Comment by Chris Lyons on October 18, 2017 at 4:42am
Ok I watched Cigar Box Nation TV on taming piezos on Friday. I had seen it before and tried it. In the video, Ben says a 0.1and 0.22 microfarad capacitor are the only 2 that would be suited to tame a piezo. I used a 0.1 microfarad cap and it took took the edge off and the "quack" down significantly. I really like distortion, if a piezo has good distortion, to me, it was installed right. Adding the 0.1 cap took away alot of the distortion but also has the desired effect people want. I've messed around with the donh Saftey circuit and loads of different Strat grounding mods. I had a 6800 picofarad Russian Military capacitor. 6800 picofarad is alot smaller than 0.1 microfarad. I used that and it took the quack and feedback away but hardly took any distortion or output away. I might try a smaller cap than that but it had the desired effects I was looking for. 6800 picofarad between the ground and hot lugs on your jack.
Comment by Chick Who Tinkers on October 15, 2017 at 11:17pm

What did you do, Chris? I'd love to know.

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