I found this in the Washington Post today...its funny, they blame everyone but themselves and the fact they over imported a bunch of cheap guitars from China!

Now, nobody wants a Fender or Gibson....I wonder why?

Even Paul reed Smith wants to import there way into success, Its time for the cigar box guitar to take over the world!


The convention couldn’t sound less rock-and-roll — the National Association of Music Merchants Show. But when the doors open at the Anaheim Convention Center, people stream in to scour rows of Fenders, Les Pauls and the oddball, custom-built creations such as the 5-foot-4-inch mermaid guitar crafted of 15 kinds of wood.

Standing in the center of the biggest, six-string candy store in the United States, you can almost believe all is well within the guitar world.

Except if, like George Gruhn, you know better. The 71-year-old Nashville dealer has sold guitars to Eric Clapton, Neil Young, Paul McCartney and Taylor Swift. Walking through NAMM with Gruhn is like shadowing Bill Belichick at the NFL Scouting Combine. There is great love for the product and great skepticism. What others might see as a boom — the seemingly endless line of manufacturers showcasing instruments — Gruhn sees as two trains on a collision course.

“There are more makers now than ever before in the history of the instrument, but the market is not growing,” Gruhn says in a voice that flutters between a groan and a grumble. “I’m not all doomsday, but this — this is not sustainable.”

The numbers back him up. In the past decade, electric guitar sales have plummeted, from about 1.5 million sold annually to just over 1 million. The two biggest companies, Gibson and Fender, are in debt, and a third, PRS Guitars, had to cut staff and expand production of cheaper guitars. In April, Moody’s downgraded Guitar Center, the largest chain retailer, as it faces $1.6 billion in debt. And at Sweetwater.com, the online retailer, a brand-new, interest-free Fender can be had for as little as $8 a month.

What worries Gruhn is not simply that profits are down. That happens in business. He’s concerned by the “why” behind the sales decline. When he opened his store 46 years ago, everyone wanted to be a guitar god, inspired by the men who roamed the concert stage, including Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimi Hendrix, Carlos Santana and Jimmy Page. Now those boomers are retiring, downsizing and adjusting to fixed incomes. They’re looking to shed, not add to, their collections, and the younger generation isn’t stepping in to replace them.

Gruhn knows why.

“What we need is guitar heroes,” he says.

He is asked about Clapton, who himself recently downsized his collection. Gruhn sold 29 of his guitars.

“Eric Clapton is my age,” he says.

How about Creed’s Mark Tremonti, Joe Bonamassa, John Mayer? He shakes his head.

“John Mayer?” he asks. “You don’t see a bunch of kids emulating John Mayer and listening to him and wanting to pick up a guitar because of him.”

Guitar heroes. They arrived with the first wave of rock-and-roll. Chuck Berry duckwalking across the big screen. Scotty Moore’s reverb-soaked Gibson on Elvis’s Sun records. Link Wray, with his biker cool, blasting through “Rumble” in 1958.

Living Colour's Vernon Reid and The Post's Geoff Edgers deconstruct some of rock's most iconic guitar riffs, from "Cult of Personality" to "Back in Black." (Erin Patrick O'Connor/The Washington Post)

That instrumental wasn’t a technical feat. It required just four chords. But four chords were enough for Jimmy Page.

“That was something that had so much profound attitude to it,” Page told Jack White and the Edge in the 2009 documentary “It Might Get Loud.”

The ’60s brought a wave of white blues — Clapton, Jeff Beck, Keith Richards — as well as the theatrics of the guitar-smashing Pete Townshend and the sonic revolutionary Hendrix.

McCartney saw Hendrix play at the Bag O’Nails club in London in 1967. He thinks back on those days fondly and, in his sets today, picks up a left-handed Les Paul to jam through Hendrix’s “Foxy Lady.”

“The electric guitar was new and fascinatingly exciting in a period before Jimi and immediately after,” the former Beatle says wistfully in a recent interview. “So you got loads of great players emulating guys like B.B. King and Buddy Guy, and you had a few generations there.”

He pauses.

“Now, it’s more electronic music and kids listen differently,” McCartney says. “They don’t have guitar heroes like you and I did.”

Nirvana was huge when the Black Keys’ Dan Auerbach, 38, was growing up.

“And everybody wanted a guitar,” he says. “This is not surprising. It has to do with what’s in the Top 20.”

Living Colour’s Vernon Reid agrees but also speaks to a larger shift. He remembers being inspired when he heard Santana on the radio. “There was a culture of guitar playing, and music was central,” adds Reid, 58. “A record would come out and you would hear about that record, and you would make the journey. There was a certain investment in time and resources.”

Vernon Reid found the music of Jimi Hendrix after he discovered Carlos Santana. He talks with The Post's Geoff Edgers about how the two guitar icons influenced his playing style. (Erin Patrick O'Connor/The Washington Post)

Lita Ford, also 58, remembers curling up on the couch one night in 1977 to watch Cheap Trick on “Don Kirshner’s Rock Concert.” She was 19 and her band, the Runaways, had played gigs with them.

“It was just a different world,” Ford says. “There was ‘Don Kirshner’s Rock Concert,’ Ed Sullivan, Dick Clark, and they would have one band on and you would wait all week to see who that band was going to be. And you could talk about it all week long with your friends — ‘Saturday night, Deep Purple’s going to be on, what are they going to play?’ — and then everybody’s around the TV like you’re watching a football game.”

By the ’80s, when Ford went solo and cracked the Top 40, she became one of the few female guitar heroes on a playlist packed with men, including Stevie Ray Vaughan, Joe Satriani and Eddie Van Halen.

Guitar culture was pervasive, whether in movie houses (“Karate Kid” Ralph Macchio outdueling Steve Vai in the 1986 movie “Crossroads”; Michael J. Fox playing a blistering solo in “Back to the Future” and co-starring with Joan Jett in 1987’s rock-band drama “Light of Day”) or on MTV and the older, concert films featuring the Who and Led Zeppelin on seemingly endless repeats.

But there were already hints of the change to come, of the evolutions in music technology that would eventually compete with the guitar. In 1979, Tascam’s Portastudio 144 arrived on the market, allowing anybody with a microphone and a patch cord to record with multiple tracks. (Bruce Springsteen used a Portastudio for 1982’s “Nebraska.”) In 1981, Oberheim introduced the DMX drum machine, revolutionizing hip-hop.

So instead of Hendrix or Santana, Linkin Park’s Brad Delson drew his inspiration from Run-DMC’s “Raising Hell,” the crossover smash released in 1986. Delson, whose band recently landed atop the charts with an album notably light on guitar, doesn’t look at the leap from ax men to DJs as a bad thing.

“Music is music,” he says. “These guys are all musical heroes, whatever cool instrument they play. And today, they’re gravitating toward programming beats on an Ableton. I don’t think that’s any less creative as playing bass. I’m open to the evolution as it unfolds. Musical genius is musical genius. It just takes different forms.”

An industry responds

Tell that to Guitar Center, now $1.6 billion in debt and so fearful of publicity that a spokeswoman would only make an executive available for an interview on one condition: “He cannot discuss financials or politics under any circumstances.” (No thanks.)

Richard Ash, the chief executive of Sam Ash, the largest chain of family-owned music stores in the country, isn’t afraid to state the obvious.

“Our customers are getting older, and they’re going to be gone soon,” he says.

Over the past three years, Gibson’s annual revenue has fallen from $2.1 billion to $1.7 billion, according to data gathered by Music Trades magazine. The company’s 2014 purchase of Philips’s audio division for $135 million led to debt — how much, the company won’t say — and a Moody’s downgrading last year. Fender, which had to abandon a public offering in 2012, has fallen from $675 million in revenue to $545 million. It has cut its debt in recent years, but it remains at $100 million.

And starting in 2010, the industry witnessed a milestone that would have been unthinkable during the hair-metal era: Acoustic models began to outsell electric.

Still, the leaders of Gibson, Fender and PRS say they have not given up.

“The death of the guitar, to paraphrase Mark Twain, is greatly exaggerated,” says Fender’s chief executive, Andy Mooney.

He says that the company has a strategy designed to reach millennials. The key, Mooney says, is to get more beginners to stick with an instrument they often abandon within a year. To that end, in July the company will launch a subscription-based service it says will change the way new guitarists learn to play through a series of online tools.

Paul Reed Smith, the Maryland-based guitar designer, says the industry is just now recovering from the recession that struck in 2009. He points to PRS’s sustained revenue — the company says they’re between $42 million and $45 million a year — and an increased demand for guitars.

“This is a very complicated mix of economy versus market, demand versus what products are they putting out, versus are their products as good as they used to be, versus what’s going on with the Internet, versus how are the big-box stores dealing with what’s going on,” Smith says. “But I’ll tell you this: You put a magic guitar in a case and ship it to a dealer, it will sell.”

Then there’s Henry Juszkiewicz, the biggest and most controversial of the music instrument moguls. When he and a partner bought Gibson in 1986, for just $5 million, the onetime giant was dying.

“It was a failed company that had an iconic name, but it really was on its last legs,” Ash says. “[Juszkiewicz] completely revived the Gibson line.”

Juszkiewicz, 64, is known for being temperamental, ultracompetitive and difficult to work for. A former Gibson staffer recalls a company retreat in Las Vegas punctuated by a trip to a shooting range, where executives shot up a Fender Stratocaster. In recent years, Juszkiewicz has made two major pushes, both seemingly aimed at expanding a company when a product itself — the guitar — has shown a limited ability to grow its market.

In 2014, he acquired Philips’s audio division to add headphones, speakers and digital recorders to Gibson’s brand. The idea, Juszkiewicz says, is to recast Gibson from a guitar company to a consumer electronics company.

There’s also the line of self-tuning “robot” guitars that Gibson spent more than a decade and millions of dollars developing. In 2015, Juszkiewicz made the feature standard on most new guitars. Sales dropped so dramatically, as players and collectors questioned the added cost and value, that Gibson told dealers to slash prices. The company then abandoned making self-tuners a standard feature. You can still buy them — they call them “G Force” — but they’re now simply an add-on option.

Journey’s Neal Schon says he battled with Juszkiewicz when he served as a consultant to Gibson.

“I was trying to help Henry and shoo him away from areas that he was spending a whole lot of money in,” Schon says. “All this electronical, robot crap. I told him, point blank, ‘What you’re doing, Roland and other companies are light-years in front of you, you’ve got this whole building you’ve designated to be working on this synth guitar. I’ve played it. And it just doesn’t work.’ And he refused to believe that.”

Juszkiewicz says that one day, the self-tuning guitars will be recognized as a great innovation, comparing them with the advent of the television remote control. He also believes in the Philips purchase. Eventually, he says, the acquisition will be recognized as the right decision.

“Everything we do is about music,” Juszkiewicz says. “It doesn’t matter whether it’s the making of music with instruments or the listening of music with a player. To me, we’re a music company. That’s what I want to be. And I want to be number one. And, you know, nobody else seems to be applying for the job right now.”

The search for inspiration

If there is a singular question in the guitar industry, it’s no different from what drives Apple. How do you get the product into a teenager’s hands? And once it’s there, how do you get them to fall in love with it?

Fender’s trying through lessons and a slew of online tools (Fender Tune, Fender Tone, Fender Riffstation). The Music Experience, a Florida-based company, has recruited PRS, Fender, Gibson and other companies to set up tents at festivals for people to try out guitars. There is also School of Rock, which has almost 200 branches across the country.

On a Friday night in Watertown, Mass., practice is just getting started.

Joe Pessia runs the board and coaches the band. He’s 47, a guitarist who once played in a band with Extreme’s Nuno Bettencourt and has worked at School of Rock since 2008.

Watching practice, it’s easy to understand why.

With Pessia presiding, the school’s showcase group blasts through three songs released decades before any of them were born.

The Cars’ “Bye Bye Love” blends quirky, new-wave keyboards and barre chords. Journey’s “Stone in Love” is classic ’80s arena rock punctuated by Schon’s melodic guitar line. Matt Martin, a 17-year-old guitarist wearing white sneakers, jeans and a House of Blues T-shirt, takes the lead on this.

The band’s other Stratocaster is played by Mena Lemos, a 15-year-old sophomore. She takes on Rush’s “The Spirit of Radio.”

As they play, the teenagers dance, laugh and work to get the songs right. Their parents are also happy. Arezou Lemos, Mena’s mother, sees a daughter who is confident and has two sets of friends — the kids at School of Rock and her peers at Newton South High School.

“There are a lot of not-easy times that they go through as teenagers,” she says, “and having music in her life, it’s been a savior.”

Julie Martin says her son Matt was a quiet boy who played in Little League but never connected with sports. She and her husband bought him his first guitar when he was 6.

“It was immediate,” she says. “He could play right away. It gave him confidence, in the immediate, and I think long term it helps him in every aspect of his life.”

She remembers her own childhood in working-class Boston.

“I know exactly what he could be out doing,” Martin says. “That enters my mind. We are so lucky to have found School of Rock. He’s there Thursday, Friday and Saturday every week, all year.”

Rush’s prog-metal is not for beginners, with its time shifts and reggae twist.

“They’ve never played this before,” Pessia says, turning to whisper in awe. “The first time.”

So who are these kids? The future? An aberration?

It’s hard to know. But Matt Martin didn’t need to think long about why he wanted to play a Strat as a kid.

“Eric Clapton,” he says. “He’s my number one.”

To Phillip McKnight, a 42-year-old guitarist and former music store owner in Arizona, the spread of School of Rock isn’t surprising.

He carved out space for guitar lessons shortly after opening his music store in a strip mall in 2005. The sideline began to grow, and eventually, he founded the McKnight Music Academy. As it grew, from two rooms to eight, from 25 students to 250, McKnight noticed a curious development.

Around 2012, the gender mix of his student base shifted dramatically. The eight to 12 girls taking lessons jumped to 27 to 59 to 119, eventually outnumbering the boys. Why? He asked them.

Taylor Swift.

Nobody would confuse the pop star’s chops with Bonnie Raitt’s. But she does play a guitar.

Andy Mooney, the Fender CEO, calls Swift “the most influential guitarist of recent years.”

“I don’t think that young girls looked at Taylor and said, ‘I’m really impressed by the way she plays G major arpeggios.’ ” Mooney says. “They liked how she looked, and they wanted to emulate her.”

When McKnight launched a video series on YouTube, he did an episode called “Is Taylor Swift the next Eddie Van Halen?” He wasn’t talking about technique. He was talking about inspiring younger players. The video series, in the end, grew faster than guitar sales or lessons. Earlier this year, McKnight shut down his store.

The videos? He’ll keep doing them. They’re making money.

Guitar videos by Erin O’Connor / The Washington Post filmed with assistance from Arlington County Fire Department. Design and development by Matthew Callahan.

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Thanks for the link Skeesix. So I'm guessing the opening thread video is the big three complaining they are no longer relevant? That makes it even funnier. They wont come out and admit the idea of 5+K for "tone wood and sustain" is a myth for an electric guitar. Because it's tradition. And people should pay $$$ for a tradition? 

As BeetleJuice pointed out earlier wood is everything on an acoustic. Perhaps that's why the big three are still selling these. A cheap acoustic will always sound like a cheap acoustic. Not saying there's no good sounding ones out there. Just not as good as the real thing. 

Hear is one of my favorite lines I heard years ago. A solid mahogany body will have better sustain than one that is in three or four pieces. The glue lines will cut down the sustain.  I laughed about it then. I'm still laughing now. : ) Why? Because a Gibson Less Paul has an arched top. Usually bookmatched and glued together. Then glued onto a solid mahogany base. The body is in three pieces. So by their own words their guitars have no sustain. 

We need to mail your post to the Gibson marketing team....they've got holes in there sales game for sure!

Wills Easy Guitar did a video in response to the Washington Post piece that pretty much sums it up how I feel about it.

NOTE: the linked video contains some strong language. If that offends you, don't click:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6yjPa-OktI&t=634s

As far as tonewood on an electric, uh yeah.

There was a huge thread on TDPRI 10 years ago or so where it was put forth by a very well regarded luthier that the best body woods for an electric were the ones with the most uniform density. Someone replied with something to the effect of "well, MDF has a more uniform density than any wood...".

A member named Terry Down did some tests and confirmed that, yes MDF is a great "tonewood" for an electric guitar body and is excellent in the transference of vibrations through it's mass. But, there are two main disadvantages to MDF:

1. It's extremely heavy.

2. It has no lateral strength. Ever put a screw into the end of MDF? If you have you know it will split even if you pre-drill the hole. (I've got a worked around for this but I digress.)

To this I'll add that the very first electric guitar I ever owned was a Gibson "Kalamazoo" which had a particle board body. Also, the very first Broadcaster/Tele bodies were made from the pine wood that Leo recycled from shipping crates and pallets from parts received for his electronics business... And that's how pine bodied Teles became mojo magic.

Tonewood my butt. If your not getting good sustain from any guitar, 99 times out of one hundred it's due to one thing - poor mechanical bonding not because of an inferior wood or glue seams.

As for "Tonewood":

I have quite a few guitars made of different types of wood and have had many guitars of different wood types over the last 39 years. I've had Plywood, Alder, Poplar, Basswood, Oak, Maple and Mahogany guitars.

My all around favorite is a Mahogany body with a arched Maple cap and Mahogany neck. WHY? Because I can plug it into any amp and it sounds great clean or dirty with ease. It's not a expensive guitar, Chinese made and sells for less than 200 USD.

My least liked guitars have been made of plywood. It seems that no matter what I did to them or put on them made enough difference. Most were duds.

A solid body still vibrates and colors a guitars tone, either for good or for bad no matter what the material used. Every part of a guitar makes a difference in how that guitar sounds whether it's a solid body, semi-hollow body or hollow body. All pickups are microphonic to one level or another and will pickup the vibrations through the guitar's body/neck and turn it to electronic signal. Each material used offers it's own unique flavor to the sound, some are very noticeable and some not so noticeable due to variables in the material's makeup. This can result in a guitar that just sings or a guitar that is just a dud when it comes to sound/tone.

Tonewood is more about saying "this type of wood gives this type of sound/tone". This hasn't been proven or dis-proven yet. 

Types of construction can have an effect on sound/tone. Again, the results can be large or little.

It is true that a lot of claims can be sales fodder, but not all of them. There's a reason why so many best selling and prized/sought after guitars are made a certain way with certain materials. They sound the best. That's a result that can't be explained away as marketing ploys.

The most important thing though is to play the best that you can with what you have and upgrade when you can if you want to. If your happy with what you have, then great.

Have you ever changed the pickups and pots in one of your ply body guitars? Usually the cheaper guitars have bad pots and pickups. Go with name brand pickups. Switchcrat or the like in pots. The good stuff. No sense in running a $90 pickup through a $1 pot. Or the even cheaper pots than may be in the guitar. And don't get pickups by Fender or Gibson. There are many who swap out the electronics in the name brands as well. Because the other brands of pickups sound way better. 

Oh yeah, I've changed pots, wiring schemes, caps, pickups and hardware without desired results. Some were better, but not good enough. I have 2 plywood body gits left, 1 is my Baritone Dulcitar and the other is my new Strat-O-Rez build. I can't help but to think of how much better they would be if they weren't plywood though. I do think that a plywood body could be suitable for a Bass build.

Why work so hard though when you can start off with something great?

Ever had a Mahogany guitar with P90's, Mini-buckers or Humbuckers? Fantastic tone monsters. Same goes for a new Ash/Alder quality Telecaster or Strat.

If you go to a local guitar shop and pick up a few guitars of different types , play and listen to them clean, you can tell a difference in how good they sound. Videos and sound samples on the internet just aren't the same.

Bummer you haven't had success with switching out ply body electronics. The only playable CBG I've ever made is my Cosmic Glider. It's a semi hollow all ply body build. Two Seymour Duncan mini 59 humbuckers. Sounds amazing. I do have two solid mahogany guitars I can compare it to. One 1970 ( all original ) and one 1976. Had to replace the PAFs in the 76. So I went with Duncan's. Yes there is a slight difference between a full size PAF and a mini. But not enough to hear live or in a studio. The 76' and Cosmic Glider go head to head beautifully. 

The telly I have is a pine body from Korea. Put some Duncan Quarter pounds in it. Went from thin nasal  to twangy tone monster.  

Plywood can differ greatly depending on the wood types used and the neck being used with it can make a difference too.

CBG's are a different animal altogether and there sound has a lot to do with how it's constructed. For example my Sprite build in my avatar, the box is all plywood, but the real tone is coming from the neck and through piece made of Red Oak. Other CBG's may get their sound from the box that they're made of and the boxes can differ greatly. I've heard people rave about the Punch boxes, I've got one to try out later.

I had a Arbor Strat made of plywood back in the 80's. Maple neck, Kahler locking tremolo, EMG pickup and electronics It had a very sterile tone to it. In the lower mid to bass range, but got muddy quick with distortion/high gain. Sold it on.

80's Lotus flying V with Dimarzio pickups, Maple neck and plywood body. Dull sounding. Keep the neck, hardware, electronics and pickups. Body went bye bye.

Mako Korean Strat with 3 single coils. Same deal, dull sounding. Sold it.

My dulcitar build has a baritone scale neck Made of Red Oak that gets me acceptable tone from a plywood body I had. I used another ply body for the Strat-o-Rez build because it's more about the Rez part. 

Got a old Japanese hollow body made of ply that wasn't great when I got it(first guitar). It has been rewired, has Emerson CTS Pots, and GFS Mini-buckers in it. What made the most difference in it was the new Maple neck. Now it has workable tone to me.

I may just be picky. ;) Haha But I always go with what I hear rather than what I'm told by others. That is what everybody should do. Go with what you hear from the guitar itself.

I can understand the EMGs sounding sterile. I had a set. Wow, what a complete disappointment they were. Probably the only pickup set that went in and out quickly. You really have to be careful when getting a cheaper guitar made with brand pickups. Or 'licensed under' pickups. Usually no where near the quality of the real thing. More or less a selling point rather than quality. I had a mystery meat Hamer with 'licensed' Duncan PAFs. Those pickups are no where near the quality a real Duncan has. Mystery meat is a good way to call it. Wood particles compressed with glue into the thickness of a guitar body. Guess you could all it a polymer body guitar. The guitar itself was very poorly made. So bad it would never be in tune. It's in pieces. Not much to salvage.  

In the post above, I was referring strictly to the sustain of so called tonewoods in an electric guitar. What you are referring to is the "tone color" or "tone flavor" of different tonewoods. Two different animals.

Sustain is an objective topic in that either the string is sustaining it's vibrations adequately or it is not. Just about any wood that is strong enough to handle the tensions in play is going to be capable of providing adequate sustain although some will be better than others by a slight amount. Problems with sustain on an electric are either mechanical in nature or have to do with the materials used and/or the design of the bridge.

The "tone color" of various tonewoods on the other hand is highly subjective and is a topic I avoid like the plague. Very little can be proven as fact but I have seen threads get very heated none the less.

Tone color is very important to acoustic instruments. And before modern potting techniques did have an effect on pickups. What was going on before potting is called microphonic. Technically the pickup was not only reaction to the energy of the magnetic field. But was also acting like a very weak microphone. Picking up the vibrations within the wood itself. Modern potting techniques have created a pickup without the microphonic tendency. Now as far as wood goes. The physics and analyst data has the wood effecting tone in either the third or fourth complete wave of energy produced by plucking a string. This is well below the threshold of interference to the overall sound. You could say the bridge and fret are at 95% and all wood at %5 or lower. Science. But this is with modern quality pickups. Not all pickups are created equal.

Now concerning Paul's guitars. It is very likely his choice in pickups could be slightly microphonic. This would have a real effect on the overall tone. This would explain why the same pickup would sound different in each wood it's mounted in. The combination of wood, strings and playing make these types of pickups more sonically unique. 

I do prefer the non-wax potted pickups, I think they offer more attitude and can scream when played hard with some distortion. Singles tend to feedback more this way for sure.

I noticed that my PVC guitar build is kinda flat sounding, but that's fine for baritone bass tones anyway. Then again, the pickup is made from the field coil assembly of a hand drill motor. Regular pickups could add something to it.

All pickups are Microphonic to some level whether they are potted, not potted or even sealed. It's inherent to they're design. A potted or potted and sealed pickup won't catch as much body/neck influence, but you can't totally isolate the body/neck influence.

Even though the body may be solid wood, it will still pass vibrations to the pickup and influence the tone. So I'm not sure what the percentage of body/neck influence is, but I believe it's more than we think. I now have 2 solid body guitars with Piezo's installed. You can definitely hear the wood tone coming through clearly. Just have to find the right wiring scheme to tame the piezo or use a preamp from now on. If you put the back of your unplugged guitar to your ear and pluck the strings, you can hear and feel the vibrations at what seems to be instantaneous reaction.

I've seen chart readouts and data that emulate certain results on how much certain materials influence sound in a guitar. There are so many variables that come into play and so many things to consider and some things may have been overlooked. There's data on charts saying what we hear, but our ears hear differently and our brains differ in what we think is good or bad. The later can differ from person to person which is why the "tonewood" debate will probably rage on forever.;) 

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