SOAPBOX - Rants & Raves


SOAPBOX - Rants & Raves

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Cigar Box Fire & Brimstone.
A place to spout off with your tirades, your manifestos, your calls-to-arms. (all the stuff that made the "old forum" great).
What are you passionate about?
What makes your blood boil?
Don't pull any punches.
. . no touchy-feely support group bullshit here.

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Started by Susan Hunt. Last reply by Mama Mojo Dec 11, 2009. 8 Replies

I just have to say, this site is so damn much fun. There's always something interesting going on, in addition to the river of information inside. It's impossible to look at CBN for just a few…Continue

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Comment by smilingdog1 on November 16, 2015 at 1:56pm

I second the appreciation for all you guys do for us daily here on the Nations website. Takes a lot to keep it updated.

Comment by turtlehead on November 16, 2015 at 11:59am

Just wanted to say thanks to Ben and Shane for listening and trying to make changes to please everyone.  Not an enviable task.  I like the way the featured articles are being presented now and personally I like the latest activity the way it is currently. That way we can see what's happening across the board, which hopefully keeps the discussions going strong.

Comment by Ben "C. B. Gitty" Baker on November 13, 2015 at 9:57pm

I gave it a try. The change had unintended consequences on things showing up in areas besides the latest activity list. Specifically, the "Latest Activity" section of people's personal pages. So I changed it back.

Comment by Jim_in_Tucson on November 12, 2015 at 8:59pm

Ah, 'Finder. lol, nothing lasts. Astonishingly, the "Latest Activity" section has gone back to its old self and then some. Wait till tomorrow when the rest of the clique become aware of this and begin adding their $.02 (I mean, $199.99 + shipping), again... and again... and again. ^^

Comment by Jim_in_Tucson on November 11, 2015 at 4:16pm

'Finder > Thank you for the post you made on October 29, regarding Ning's ability/feature to relegate replies to a sub-section!

Already, the changes made to the Latest Activity section have limited the nonsensical posts considerably. I'd like to think maybe even my comment posted an hour earlier than yours, has helped encourage the use of real words; even sentences; rather than one syllable whoops, wheezed, expletives, grunts, etc., etc. (With a couple of obvious and familiar exceptions, of course.) Even in the few days since the changes were implemented, at least one classless, pre-adolescent toilet joke has slipped in, but now, it's in a "sub-section"- not right out in front, offensive to everyone who finds such "jokes" distasteful... and demeaning to this site.

To the person who actually implemented the changes: thank you!            

Comment by Shane Speal on October 30, 2015 at 9:39am

Wayfinder said: I'm sure if some of us wanted a particular blog featured, a note to Ben with reasons why would be given all due attention.

Every morning, I scour Cigar Box Nation for content to feature. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT, TELL ME!

Best way to get a hold of me is to catch me on Facebook chat or email me at

We need more feature articles.  Nation members' content is driving new visitors to this site in droves.  We share the features on Facebook, my Guitar World column, on Reddit and many other places.  Our entire goal is to continue to spread the concept of cigar box guitars and homemade instruments.

so... HELL YES!!!

Comment by smilingdog1 on October 29, 2015 at 9:55pm

Well said gentlemen, I'm embarrassed to say I for one never noticed the down climb or up climb here on the nation. I guess working overtime for past five years does that. The nation has always been fair and generous in allowing us old farts to post most anything with little restrictions. I witnessed some very funny blogs that went viral and had to be shut down for good reason but those are far and few between. I've noticed with our festivals and club house, how folks ether get it or don't about all the free time and energy devoted to making these events free and available to an interest we just enjoy sharing with others.

The nation has served me for free in ways I can hardly repay other than to patronize it when ever opportunity offers itself.

The nation was and still is a place to connect us to folks all around the world with homemade music and instruments. Yes, it may be ebbing like a tide but as long as it is willing to change with the times, I feel it will weather all challenges.

Thanks for letting us rant or what ever you want to call it.

The bonehead mic is cheesy, funny and sounded amazing on cardboard.

It's easy for us to see what we don't like about what others may say or do, however I find that there are as many things good about those others especially when we take the time to get and know them. Some of those redundant comments that make us cringe are recognizably from folks I know that do a lot for the community and nonprofit organizations that do much for those who need it. Peace!

Wew. OK rants over! 

Comment by Jim_in_Tucson on October 29, 2015 at 4:47pm

Contrary to it's intention, I imagine, I think the  "Latest Activity" section actually may be discouraging some people from CBN.

I'm not referring to everyone or every post, of course, but, IMO, the Latest Activities section has become too much of a time/space-waster for people making numerous- and often simplistic and predictably lame, comments on photos and videos- selfishly, it seems, just to see their name/avatar, etc., in the lights, so to speak, obviously not caring if they bump off non-self-serving, thoughtful, interesting posts.

I doubt I'm the only one who doesn't enjoy scrolling thru' a number of the thread's "More" buttons, just to find something more articulate than, "AWESOME!!!," "Me likey!!!," or whatever banal thought happens to be the first thing to enter someone's head.

I think CBN would encourage more people to get involved (and certainly eliminate a lot of nOiSe) by limiting posters to just a couple of messages per day- or better, perhaps, 7 per week. Heck, if someone needs more attention than that, perhaps they need to...

Well, you know.        

Comment by Ben "C. B. Gitty" Baker on October 29, 2015 at 2:43pm

The fact is, Cigar Box Nation was calcifying and stagnating. A long slow decline of users and traffic, stagnation and repetition of content, competition from Facebook and other platforms... so we had to think about what to do about that. Our goal is to make sure Cigar Box Nation remains the beating heart of the cigar box guitar and homemade/handmade music movements.

Updating the and modernizing the design was one thing we decided to do. Giving the home page a touch of "news magazine" aspect, via the feature articles, was another. Working in tandem with the Cigar Box Nation Facebook page was yet another. 

Results have been very promising, overall. I am sorry if some of the changes have angered some of the old-timers. That is always the danger of shaking things up. 

I can tell you that as long as I own Cigar Box Nation, it will never have a shopping cart or be a "store" unto itself. It will always be a free resource, without censorship of other folks trying to sell their creations. We will continue to advertise C. B. Gitty here as effectively as possible, but with an effort to not have the advertising be too invasive or distracting from the content.

That about sums up where I stand on it.

Comment by Shane Speal on October 29, 2015 at 2:27pm

BTW, the Nation was on a downhill slide before the redesign.  We were watching attendance drop off to nothing.  At the same time, we saw a real need for a place to post feature articles, how-to's and other 'guitar magazine' style posts. 

Our first step was to bring the Nation Facebook page back to life with daily postings.  Then we added the features on the front of this site.

We haven't touched the forums and blogs.  Everything is still there and people are posting a lot.  But the end result of all these changes are a HUGE increase in readership across the board on here.

As for Gitty's ads...  What people don't realize is that he's reinvesting a huge wad of his profits on the advancement of cigar box guitars, homemade instruments, it's history, design and more.  The ads keep things going. 

We now have Guitar World magazine behind us.  We have new historical articles published.  There's great plans and amazing content being generated by you all.  This is only the beginning, folks. 

Rant over.


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