Hi Folks,
I'm trying out nylon strings for the first time. I built a 3 stringer. Using the 5, 3 and 1 strings: GDG tuning.
My issue is they sound dead and seem sloppy, but if I tighten them up, they break. Part of the breaking came from some issues with the tail sharp edge and bad angle, but since I fixed that, it's still an issue. I'm unsure how tight to make them. I know nylon is very stretchy. I have built others CBGs with no issues using steel strings. I need some guidance. What am I missing?
The body is rather small gourd, 24 inch scale.

The low string has a lot of vibration but when I tried to tighten it up, it felt way to tense before I got it in tune. It sounds decent, but the other two strings sound kind of dead. When I strum all three it sounds horrible! I can see a lot of movement in the strings (vibrating quite a lot)
The strings I am using are Ernesto Palla guitar strings, "concert quality".

Thanks,
Greg

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I would consider using the 5, 4 and 3rd strings (A, D & G) then only the A needs to be tuned down a tone to G.

Something else to consider: what scale length are you using? Classical guitars (which use nylon strings) can be around the 650 mm to 660 mm length....so if you have a shorter scale length than this then that might have a bearing on why your strings sound a little bit sloppy. So you might then need to tune up to A E A.

Hope this helps,

Marty

Ok, thanks for all the help! The scale length is 24 inches.
I'll give the 5,4,3 a shot and see how it goes. If I still have issues, I'll try high tension strings.
The 5 string has the most buzz to it. I might be having some issues with the string going throught the groove in the nut and bridge. I cut them a little wider than in the past... Although, I think the tension is the biggest culprit.
Thanks for the advice!!!
Thanks for the suggestion. There is some buzz on a couple frets that I fixed, but the droning buzz is in the sound. It's a different kind of buzz. The pitch of the buzz actually changes after strumming the string. It happens most with the #5 string. Kind of a humming buzz that almost sounds like a reverb with a subtle wha, wha to it. I don't know if that description is making sense. I've built several CBG, but have never had a sound like this. I may try some steel strings on it and see if I get anything similar. Just another mystery with this art form...
Well, a quick update on my nylon strings. For now they are OK. The 5,4,3 tuned A E A works pretty well. The 5 string drones heavily, but I'm willing to live it. At some point a will probably switch to higher tension strings. Thanks Wayfinder and Marty O for your help. I'll post some pics when I get a chance.
Greg

No problem at all...glad I could have been of help. loo forward to seeing the pics.

Cheers

Marty

hey  ..  ps  .....   try   them with a slide  .   it  may  be  hard  to  wrap  your   head  around  ,    but  nylons   slide   pretty    well  , and sound real  smooth . better   with a  rod  than  piezo   or acoustic  tho  .    ;-)

lol..,   i  expect  you  to  come back and say  "wow  "  now  ;-)

sounds like your bridge and nut.issue...  look up baritone uke tuning on youtube, here's a song i did using nylons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeUYzy_rN8U#t=13

Very nice song, Bug

Very nice! Really enjoyed that, thanks!
Last update. I got some help from one of my students who plays guitar. He pointed out that the nut groove was too deep and the string was buzzing on the first fret. His eyes are better than mine and his experience helped me out. I cut a small shim and super glued it into the groove... problem solved! I'm really liking this Gourtar. I had our music teacher play it through an amp and he had a blast. The music students really get a kick out of my builds. One student is always right there when I bring them in. He can't wait to get his hands on them. Love sharing! Thanks for all the help! Pics coming soon!
I'm finally able to post some pics...
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