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I announced concession price tickets AND the concession price ticket/hotel room deal over a month before the event. If I recall correctly, I posted it on the site in a couple of places and also messaged the whole Brits group. It was £20 for a room and ticket - to get a (shared) hotel room and a ticket would have been at least £50.00, so I reckon less than half price was a pretty good deal.
Other people took advantage of the concession price deals,and other people payed the full whack, I hope nobody felt short-changed or feel hard done by...but I can only do so much to ensure that as many people as possible get to the event.
The ticket prices were the same as last year, but if anyone can figure out to how to hire a venue like that, complete with tech assistance, porters etc, hire a top notch (and effing huge) PA system & sound engineer, set-up a full professional stage, pay for hotel rooms for performers, subsidise concession tickets, arrange to collect and drop-off performers from the airport, arrange press photo shoots, radio interviews, technical meetings with the venue....and on top of all that PAY three headline performers..., yes, if you can do that for less than £25 a pop, you're a better man than I am Gunga Din..to quote Kipling. And all this is valuing my time at zero, nothing, zilch....I don't aim to make a profit, I call on LOADS of favours to make this event happen, and by the time I do the accounts, if it ends up a few quid in the black, it probably works out at about 10p an hour for the time I put in....sorry, rant over.
Anyway, I hope everyone had a good day, my sympathies and commiserations to those who couldn't make it for any reason...even though I say so myself, I reckon you missed a pretty decent day...let me know if by any chance you want this to happen again.
John
Kevin Lawton said:Well, I only missed last year by a whisker so I had to wait patiently for this year. Now I've missed it too because I just couldn't scrape together enough cash for the ticket, accommodation and travel in time. If anyone had've been able to give a lift then I would have been there, or if there was somewhere to pitch a tent or whever then that would have done.
Sorry I'm feeling really depressed now guys cos there's nobody into CBGs around my neck of the woods as far as I know and I really cannot wait another year. Does anyone know of any other CBG event coming up soon please ? Hopefully not quite so far away ?
The only comment I can make on pricing is that the CBG started out as a poor man's instrument and, to those of us who are unemployed, it still is.
While £25 for a ticket, the same again for accomodation, and then double it for travelling might not seem like much to someone with a job, when you are unemployed it truely is a fortune. Perhaps if there was some kind of opportunity for some of us to 'earn our keep' or 'sing for our supper' at the event ? I would have done almost anything to have been there - I really wanted to be at the inaugeral event and desperately wanted to be with you all this time, but the meagre funds from a couple of emergency e-bay sales came through too late.
The ticket prices were the same as last year, but if anyone can figure out to how to hire a venue like that, complete with tech assistance, porters etc, hire a top notch (and effing huge) PA system & sound engineer, set-up a full professional stage, pay for hotel rooms for performers, subsidise concession tickets, arrange to collect and drop-off performers from the airport, arrange press photo shoots, radio interviews, technical meetings with the venue....and on top of all that PAY three headline performers..., yes, if you can do that for less than £25 a pop, you're a better man than I am Gunga Din..to quote Kipling.
I feel I should chip in here with my view that it was remarkably good value for money (and I know others feel the same because they said so). I'm on a pretty tight budget myself these days so the very reasonable price was a big factor in deciding if I could go. The tickets would surely need to have been a lot more if it hadn't been for the enormous effort and energy put into the event by John and the others who made it happen, so I can't say enough how grateful I am to them.
Deciding the pricing for an event like this is always going to be a tricky call. The ethos is very much about encouraging people to have a go and promoting the idea that making great music can be a low cost thing and obviously there's a risk that some of the target audience will be deterred if the cost is above a certain level. But (unless the government bring back something like the Enterprise Allowance Scheme that was exploited by musicians in the early 80s) we can't expect these events to be subsidised - the ticket income will have to cover venue and equipment costs and so on.
I suspect the biggest costs for most people have been travel and accomodation - which are obviously outside John's control. I had to fork out £37 for a return train ticket and £50 for a hotel plus a bit for food and drink. I reckon, including the ticket, I probably had to fork out around £150. On the face of it that's a fair whack, but if I'm thinking ahead to next year it means I only need to put aside an average of around £3 a week and I ought to have it covered.
In price terms I think we're in the right ballpark at the moment. I figure we might have to expect a modest rise next time to compensate for inflation and other factors that push up costs - maybe a fiver, but I don't know, I'm only guessing.
ChickenboneJohn said:
The ticket prices were the same as last year, but if anyone can figure out to how to hire a venue like that, complete with tech assistance, porters etc, hire a top notch (and effing huge) PA system & sound engineer, set-up a full professional stage, pay for hotel rooms for performers, subsidise concession tickets, arrange to collect and drop-off performers from the airport, arrange press photo shoots, radio interviews, technical meetings with the venue....and on top of all that PAY three headline performers..., yes, if you can do that for less than £25 a pop, you're a better man than I am Gunga Din..to quote Kipling.
Mr Lawton, you had twelve months from the 1st cbf last year to get together a couple of hundred quid for the event and i dont care if your unemployed or what, but if you had anything about you you`d have found the money from somewhere. Ok fair enough there is a recession on and well paid jobs are hard to find, but if i wanted something bad enough when i was unemployed or a student, i found a way to get the money. The trouble with this society at the moment, amongst other things is a growing number of people expecting everything handed to them on a plate.
I had a ticket for the festival but could`nt make it because i was waiting patiently at a hospital for 30 tonnes of grit to arrive, which it never did!!. I`m a bit miffed at that, but i`m not going to whinge for the next 12 months. As Alan Partridge would say "some people".
Mr Lawton, you had twelve months from the 1st cbf last year to get together a couple of hundred quid for the event and i dont care if your unemployed or what, but if you had anything about you you`d have found the money from somewhere. Ok fair enough there is a recession on and well paid jobs are hard to find, but if i wanted something bad enough when i was unemployed or a student, i found a way to get the money. The trouble with this society at the moment, amongst other things is a growing number of people expecting everything handed to them on a plate.
I had a ticket for the festival but could`nt make it because i was waiting patiently at a hospital for 30 tonnes of grit to arrive, which it never did!!. I`m a bit miffed at that, but i`m not going to whinge for the next 12 months. As Alan Partridge would say "some people".
If anyone had've been able to give a lift then I would have been there ...
well I know I speak for everyone when I say I have immense respect for you Olivier-not only as a musician,(superb) but also the fact that you traveled such a long way to support the scene and share your music with us.I wasn't expecting your English to be as good as it was-you got by really easily and I bet thats given you confidence to come over to England again.I certainly hope so.
Much love and respect,
HB.
Olivier is a really nice guy, a super musician and very self-effacing... and the fact that he came all that way, paying for his own airfare...amazing. None of the headline acts knew they were getting paid, so as far as they were concerned, they were just turning up at their own expense to play, so it's even more to his credit that Olivier travelled so far, especially after the debacle of last year when he got stranded at Calais hours before the festival.
I managed to put the acts up free of charge, either in the hotel or at my place, and sent them home with some cash in their pockets: I wish it could have been more...but rest assured, I'll be working on it, if the Nation wills that there should be another festival next year.
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