I know there's an element of 'no rules' when building these things, but being realistic, what would be the longest neck you could feasibly have on a CBG?

And while I'm at it, what sort of length do you think is optimal? I read somewhere that 3ft should get you through the box, a full fret board and headstock. Plus I know you can have much smaller ones...is there any significant difference except the range available>

Views: 196

Replies to This Discussion

There are some rules in this area, and it has to do with scale length(positioning of the fret marks) they determine the neck length plus or minus a couple inches. A scale of 24", 24.5", 25", 25.5", are typical scale lengths, some longer, some shorter, but for explanation purposes, lets go with one of those. My current build I went with a 25.5" scale, add 6" for creating my headstock, next, box length being used, will determine where on the box the bridge will be. The bridge will be 25.5" from the nut at the end of the neck(the nut) to the bridge/saddle.

Depending on whether you want your neck to go through the box to create it's own tailpiece, or end inside the end of the box, or bolt on version where it quits somewhere near the end where it enters the box is the next determining factor.

Now lets simplify all of this, 6" of headstock, plus lets say you want the neck to enter the box around the 17th fret, that would be at almost exactly 16"(calculated with fret calculator --> fret calc) Now lets say you have a 10" box, plus you want a through neck to protrude another 3". Add all that up, and you have 35", this is why 36" is a good all around average, I usually cut a 42" piece of wood, allows for some cutting and shaping of my headstock, shaping of the tailpiece, and the extra scrap is used for bracing pieces, so no real waste.

Using one of the fore mentioned scales allows for use of most any standard set of guitar strings.

If you want a longer looking neck, you can have the neck not enter the box till the 21st fret, or make one with 24 frets, but remember, the one rule you have to adhere to for you git to sound right, whatever your neck length, will determine the bridge placement on the box, with the example above, your bridge/saddle will be 9-1/2" from the end or 1/2" from the other end putting it at the end of the box, this gives you a lot of room for pickups if desired, sound holes, large strumming area, as you lengthen the neck, the bridge placement will move towards the center of the box, this is a fixed spacing based on your scale of choice.

Sorry so lengthy, hope this helps, ask any and all questions if still confused.

That is incredibly helpful, thanks!

Good, I was worried I got a little wind-bagged, don't hesitate to ask anything further.

Another factor to add into the equation is that you will get better acoustic volume if the bridge is about a third of the way up the box rather than at the edge of the box.

RSS

The Essential Pages

New to Cigar Box Nation? How to Play Cigar Box GuitarsFree Plans & How to Build Cigar Box GuitarsCigar Box Guitar Building BasicsCigar Box Guitar Parts Store

Site Sponsor

Recommended Links & Resources


Discussion Forum

Can a box be too shallow?

Started by Sean Murphy. Last reply by Raymond Grimmitt Dec 21, 2021. 3 Replies

beginner mistake

Started by r.j. hassler. Last reply by Thomas "Duck" Petry Jul 3, 2021. 1 Reply

Removing box labels

Started by Robert Dawkins. Last reply by Order99 Jul 6, 2020. 8 Replies

Build 2!

Started by Sean Murphy. Last reply by Sean Murphy Oct 28, 2018. 3 Replies

Best/"Easiest " Way to notch out CBG Neck......?????

Started by Brian M Nusser. Last reply by ChickenboneJohn Nov 14, 2017. 16 Replies

First build, not-great results

Started by Sean Murphy. Last reply by Slow Blues Dani & Ol' Grey Bear Nov 14, 2017. 3 Replies

Neck length

Started by Holly Hodson. Last reply by Thomas "Duck" Petry Nov 9, 2017. 4 Replies

"If you wand to get something done real bad . . ."

Started by Michael Zimmerle. Last reply by Richard Dean Oct 23, 2017. 2 Replies

First build and a broken string.

Started by Dan Mullen. Last reply by Richard Dean Oct 23, 2017. 8 Replies

What type of saw to use?

Started by Anne M. Fridley-Owen. Last reply by Anne M. Fridley-Owen Dec 4, 2016. 3 Replies

*()@%&$! Piezo

Started by Chance. Last reply by Chance Oct 24, 2016. 3 Replies

general

Started by tommy farrar. Last reply by tommy farrar Nov 28, 2015. 2 Replies

Tail - or where the strings are mounted

Started by evanmars. Last reply by Richey Kay Aug 26, 2015. 7 Replies

My fifth build

Started by James A OBrien Apr 7, 2015. 0 Replies

Cardboard Cigar Box

Started by Redbelly. Last reply by Thomas "Duck" Petry Jun 30, 2014. 3 Replies

Just Finished My First CBG. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (The Sequel)

Started by L. W. Carlson. Last reply by Thomas "Duck" Petry Jun 27, 2014. 3 Replies

Scale Length

Started by Wagner Richter. Last reply by Wagner Richter May 7, 2014. 3 Replies

Latest Activity

Bernie Edwards commented on Randy S. Bretz's photo
Thumbnail

Soundholes done

"It is looking spectacular! Great piece of work."
32 minutes ago
W.M. Peterson commented on Steve Holladay's video
1 hour ago
W.M. Peterson liked Jamie MacBlues's video
1 hour ago
Rob Uker posted a photo

School Bus Ukulele

One of my colleagues asked me to turn this electric school bus lunch box into a ukuleles.It’s…
6 hours ago
Randy S. Bretz posted a photo

Soundholes done

Been slow going on this reso project, finally got the soundholes done.
6 hours ago
Doug Thorsvik commented on A.D.EKER's video
Thumbnail

a Day in a Live 6x tracks by A .D. Eker SJP: 2022

"You are a media creating machine A.D.!  A dual threat and pulling out all the stops. You…"
7 hours ago
Doug Thorsvik commented on Poorness Studios's video
Thumbnail

Sundown (low-budget cover on CBG & kazoogle)

"Great choice of a song Kale! I recently added a few Gordon Lightfoot songs including this one to…"
7 hours ago
Doug Thorsvik commented on Poorness Studios's video
Thumbnail

Series Kazoo ~vs~ Parallel Kazoo

"I prefer parallel Kale! Though series might be more comfortable to play. Another interesting and…"
7 hours ago
Doug Thorsvik commented on Doug Thorsvik's video
Thumbnail

Sixteen Tons: 3-String Surf SLG License Plate Guitar (Not a Cigar Box Guitar)

"You did A.D. and thanks! I have a metronome set to count off some beats to get me started at the…"
7 hours ago
t-belly johnson liked Poorness Studios's video
7 hours ago
t-belly johnson commented on Poorness Studios's video
Thumbnail

Sundown (low-budget cover on CBG & kazoogle)

"It`s an age since I heard that tune! Great job, made me smile and look for the chords ;) EBAD ;)"
7 hours ago
A.D.EKER commented on Doug Thorsvik's video
Thumbnail

Sixteen Tons: 3-String Surf SLG License Plate Guitar (Not a Cigar Box Guitar)

"did i hear some click stick??  great tune working class classic !  coleminers is it not?…"
7 hours ago

Music

© 2022   Created by Ben "C. B. Gitty" Baker.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service

\uastyle>\ud/** Scrollup **/\ud.scrollup {\ud background: url("https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/963882636?profile=original") no-repeat scroll 0 0 transparent;\ud bottom: 25px;\ud display: inline !important;\ud height: 40px;\ud opacity: 0.3 !important;\ud position: fixed;\ud right: 30px;\ud text-indent: -9999px;\ud width: 40px;\ud z-index: 999;\ud}\ud.scrollup:hover {\ud opacity:0.99!important;\ud}\ud \uascript type="text/javascript">\ud x$(document).ready(function(){\ud x$(window).scroll(function(){\ud if (x$(this).scrollTop() > 100) {\ud x$('.scrollup').fadeIn();\ud } else {\ud x$('.scrollup').fadeOut();\ud }\ud });\ud x$('.scrollup').click(function(){\ud x$("html, body").animate({ scrollTop: 0 }, 600);\ud return false;\ud });\ud });\ud \ua!-- End Scroll Up -->