I'm sure this must have been asked before but I can't find it if it has.
OK. You are messing about on the guitar and you come up with the germ of an idea and start elaborating on it. How do you record (not necessarily sound recording but any form of storing it for later development) what you have so that you can expand it later?
I would like to know what others do, as at the moment little ideas just come and go, never to appear again.
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Oops sorry John......
Actually it has become such standard fare that I may have assumed too much there. Basically I have a program that is a multi-track recorder, and some digital effect plug ins, and some digital instruments/synths, drum synth, a bunch of loop tracks, and such. Fun to play with but the learning curve can be a bit steep for actually doing any useful work, so the Workstation part should be changed to Toy I believe! With the interface I can input via an instrument and/ or microphone and expand my play. Now if I could just find a time expansion machine.......
I'll look at the notation app, Thanks. A program that is compatable with various instruments, tunings and such would be awesome. Havent found one I liked or found useful yet.
Hi Mark.
Well, on these matters, as on so many others, I am easy to leave behind.
If you try MuseScore let me know how you get on with it.
Although, I can write tab, I find that recording my performances offers for me the best way to quickly record a rendition. Not that my repertoire is that expansive, but I tend to play more songs on the streets than others. Some although I like how they are arranged for some reason don't get that much air play.
It is difficult to keep them all under my fingers, so I am contantly relearning my own material. LOL My mind is definitely not as sharp as it was 30 years ago. At a seminar, someone asked John Renbourn to play a certain song. He said, Only if I can remember it. I guess when you composed 1000s of songs it gets real crazy.
Sometimes I think more like a painter. The video is the canvas and that the performance is the actual final piece of art.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqLc5zjp-po&feature=channel_vide...
A wonderful thing today to be able to record video a good quality video for very little money. We didn't have any of this when I was a kid.
In the other case, busking on the subway platform, the venue is the canvas and the fleeting time the music is in the air is the art. So, the music and lyrics have to be solid in your mind and body.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onXcQirQMok&feature=channel_vide...
Totally two different approaches for me, video and live. Thanks for asking. Enjoy.
when i am out and about i use my android recording device on HTC phone rough, simple but does the job.
at home i use a Mac also - started simply by playing the song into garage band using mic built in the com. - very straightforward
then after around 6 months i bought a Snow Ball USB mic - around £70 great quality
then I bought a mixer and upgraded mic etc but a gradual progression
normal notation would work fine, if you could write and read in normal notation, but vaghan s. nelson-lee hit it on the head, i think, that the cigar box guitar is a "casual" instrument. the point is to work within your own limits, with what you have, and over time you get better. i have been reading tabulature for a long time, because it was relative to the guitar that i was playing, reading sheet music is WAAAY beyond me. tabbing for three string would be a super easy way to record ideas, but it's also very slow.
the most NATURAL method of capturing an idea is to record a video of yourself playing. that way you don't have to stop and write, then try to figure out where you were, and play two more notes, then write them down.... get a cheap camera or use your smartphone (if you have one) to make a quick video of you playing the piece that you're working on. when you watch the video, the tune will quickly come back to you , and over time, you'll become more accustomed to hearing pieces of your own little tunes and quickly remembering how to play them.
actually recording and mixing music takes a whole other set of skills and talent, and is loaded with frustration. the easiest, and again most natural, way to record, is in one shot, in front of a recorder, in a room that has the kind of echo or background effect that you like, in a place that you practice all the time, so you're the most comfortable.
hope all this helps, roadkill. and show us what youve got sometime! :D
Thanks Vaughan and Crow.
Yes. Makes sense. I certainly see the need to get the music down in a fairly easy way, otherwise you loose the flow of it, or I certainly would.
Thanks again for the help.
When I am noodling on the diddley bow, I work on a riff until it starts to come into focus and then record it on a Zoom H2, usually giving the bottle or pipe positions verbally as I play slowly. then I record the playing up to speed. I then put the normallized sound file into a folder and when I get about 30 minutes worth of riffs, I put it onto CD and listen to it in the car as I go to and from work. Lots and lots of things that I do would be forgotten then next day if I did not do this.
Best regards, Willie
Hi Willie.
Thanks for the advice. It seems that you have a great method of working. I really like the idea of listening to them over and over in the car. Thanks for that.
All the best.
John
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