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I've been going through a number of paper-covered boxes - since I can get them more easily than the plain wood.
I've found some paper-covered boxes made of cardboard with a plywood bottom, others are a plywood/fibre composite of some type with plywood on top & bottom. So far it's taking me about 4 hours to get all the paper off and then there are complications - like the top doesn't fit very well any more, the box is too flimsy and has to be reinforced substantially, etc.
Another issue with using the bottom is that most that I get have a deep diagonal cut along the bottom that interferes with the looks.
So far it seems to me that if you've got paper-covered boxes you're probably best off keeping them that way.
yeah, I don't normally take the paper off as I like the art most of the time. I can see that cardboard (composite pressboard) would absorb the water it would take to losen the glue and thus ruin the box.
I wouldn't even bother removing the paper from those (like PUNCH, Boliva, etc. Hint: Anything that has a Spanish Cedar block or sheet or if it's completely covered inside with paper might be pressboard).
-WY
ken farmer said:I've been going through a number of paper-covered boxes - since I can get them more easily than the plain wood.
I've found some paper-covered boxes made of cardboard with a plywood bottom, others are a plywood/fibre composite of some type with plywood on top & bottom. So far it's taking me about 4 hours to get all the paper off and then there are complications - like the top doesn't fit very well any more, the box is too flimsy and has to be reinforced substantially, etc.
Another issue with using the bottom is that most that I get have a deep diagonal cut along the bottom that interferes with the looks.
So far it seems to me that if you've got paper-covered boxes you're probably best off keeping them that way.
Would anyone be interested in creating a simple database of cigar boxes?
I was thinking about documenting dimensions, materials, materials grade, paper removal notes, etc, etc...
Wes Yates said:yeah, I don't normally take the paper off as I like the art most of the time. I can see that cardboard (composite pressboard) would absorb the water it would take to losen the glue and thus ruin the box.
I wouldn't even bother removing the paper from those (like PUNCH, Boliva, etc. Hint: Anything that has a Spanish Cedar block or sheet or if it's completely covered inside with paper might be pressboard).
-WY
ken farmer said:I've been going through a number of paper-covered boxes - since I can get them more easily than the plain wood.
I've found some paper-covered boxes made of cardboard with a plywood bottom, others are a plywood/fibre composite of some type with plywood on top & bottom. So far it's taking me about 4 hours to get all the paper off and then there are complications - like the top doesn't fit very well any more, the box is too flimsy and has to be reinforced substantially, etc.
Another issue with using the bottom is that most that I get have a deep diagonal cut along the bottom that interferes with the looks.
So far it seems to me that if you've got paper-covered boxes you're probably best off keeping them that way.
I have called all around in my area for boxes. I have a contact at distributor here in Missouri, they told me that cigar boxes are not so easy to come by in my area, because the manufacturers have cut back on cost of packaging. Grrr.
I found three nice boxes at flea markets, however, the dimensions are not exactly what I want. Too small for my preferences. They are long enough about 10" but the width seems too short, something like 4 or 5 inches. The depth seems good though around 3 or 4 inches. They are very old and made of a real nice wood, with paper outlining the edges and corners, one still has the receipt (price tag) in the box, dated 1928! What ever I build with that one I want to incorporate that tag into the build somehow.
I have called all around in my area for boxes. I have a contact at distributor here in Missouri, they told me that cigar boxes are not so easy to come by in my area, because the manufacturers have cut back on cost of packaging. Grrr.
I found three nice boxes at flea markets, however, the dimensions are not exactly what I want. Too small for my preferences. They are long enough about 10" but the width seems too short, something like 4 or 5 inches. The depth seems good though around 3 or 4 inches. They are very old and made of a real nice wood, with paper outlining the edges and corners, one still has the receipt (price tag) in the box, dated 1928! What ever I build with that one I want to incorporate that tag into the build somehow.
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