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Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo

Started this discussion. Last reply by Taffy Evans Jun 28. 13 Replies

I have recently bought a 25.5 scale 12 string bolt on neck and want to make what can safely be called a big ass canjo using it and a massive tin I have laying around and I have little to no clue on…Continue

Double Neck Biscuit Tin Diddley Bass/ Chugger

Started this discussion. Last reply by Greg Turner Apr 12. 2 Replies

in the middle of a week off of work and a month long detox so I built this monster of Canjo.The tuning is Eee, the Bass is a 105 gauge E string and the Chugger is 10 and 46 gauges also tuned to e-e.…Continue

Two New Builds: The Teddy Bear and the Lunch Box

Started this discussion. Last reply by Korrigan Dec 31, 2017. 2 Replies

On Christmas Eve I was bored and…Continue

What can you guys tell me about FCf tuning

Started this discussion. Last reply by JP Lace Master Nov 13, 2017. 5 Replies

I've been messing around with my 3 String canjo this weekend and I have come across some tunings. Saw a video for how to play Folsom Prison Blues on a CBG and loved it and copied it. But heres the…Continue

 

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JP Lace Master replied to Austin K's discussion FCF tuning
"the shorter the scale length, the lighter the string gauge. Look at your standard 4 string bass guitars, they have string gauges for specific scale lengths and it is the same with guitars although to a lesser extent. Something to do with the reduced…"
Jun 29
Taffy Evans replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
"All good, keep us posted. Taff"
Jun 28
JP Lace Master replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
"Thank you Taff the raised lettering may not cause any problems, I've worked with others of this tin in the past without much worry. I'm thinking of putting something under the lid around where the bridge piece will sit in order to help…"
Jun 28
JP Lace Master replied to Austin K's discussion FCF tuning
"I did mean C tuned D string, yes."
Jun 28
JP Lace Master replied to Austin K's discussion FCF tuning
"I've a Canjo tuned to FCF, good low growl in the tone. you're best bet (my experience anyway) is to Tune an A string down to F and combine that with the C tuned C string and F tuned G string. I'd go with heavier gauge strings to get a…"
Jun 28
Taffy Evans replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
"Hi Jp, I have the same tin in my workshop but keep my wet & dry sheets in it.  A couple of considerations, you may already be aware of. 12 string acoustic sets are more common and go nearly as low as an electric set but with more choice.…"
Jun 27
JP Lace Master replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
"I'm not set of Acoustic strings per se, when I think 12 string guitar, my mind goes acoustic and that is the sound I am chasing a little bit here. if electric strings can do that for me, I'll go for it. reducing the tension is a benefit…"
Jun 27
Kirk replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
"I'm looking forward to hearing it.  But with this build, I don't see why you're set on acoustic strings.  Electric strings will resonate just fine, and you can keep the tension low."
Jun 27
JP Lace Master replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
"Mounting the Neck is the easy part, as its an old bolt neck from an electric 12 stringer, I will run a length of wood through the tin that the neck can be mounted on  I have done on my other builds. If a length of Pine can hold my bass necks,…"
Jun 27
Taffy Evans replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
"Hi JP, ah ha know I see, that tin is easy to reinforce to handle the string tension, in both directions. Now mounting the neck may be your next plan, so that the bridge is in or as close as possible to the "sweet spot" on the…"
Jun 26
JP Lace Master replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
"It is a flat Biscuit Tin, actually more like a giant Chocolate Fruits and nuts tin. Here it isI've used one of these for 2 previous builds, one for a 24 fret 6 string with a trapeze tailpiece and the other for a double neck bass and 6 stringer"
Jun 26
Taffy Evans replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
"Hi again, just to be clear, is this a can, as in cylinder or upright, or a tin as in flat biscuit type? A pic of what's being used would solve the problem.Cheers Taff"
Jun 25
Keith Rearick replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
"Maybe build a frame around the tin, then string tension wouldn't be an issue. At that point, either type stings might work. But there would be the pressure on the tin, that could be a problem, unless possibly using some thin wood holding up the…"
Jun 25
JP Lace Master replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
"I get what you mean, I've watched a can get shorter in the past, it ain't a pretty sight. The Tin I'm using in quite on the large size: 13.5inches x 10.5inches x 3.5inches, I figured bigger sound from bigger tin, lot of…"
Jun 22
Taffy Evans replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
"Hi JP, it's not only the bracing needed to resist downward pressure on the can,but also extra strengthening to stop the string tension trying to shorten the can, if you know what I mean. Taff"
Jun 22
Erasmo Coco replied to JP Lace Master's discussion Need Advice on first 12 String Canjo
" Follow the same principles as if you were building a 12 string guitar .There is a lot of string tension on a 12 string guitar and they are  often hard to keep in tune ."
Jun 21

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How many instruments have you built so far?
one cigar box and many strats
What do you find most interesting about cigar box guitars? (If you do not enter something meaningful here, your membership may be rejected).
Well, the one I have made is made of a Biscuit Tin, whether you can call that a Cigar Box guitar, I don't know, but the tone when played acoustically is beautiful

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