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first build .. strings too high???

Started this discussion. Last reply by Dave Hutch on Tuesday. 11 Replies

I just finished (almost) my first 3 string cigar box guitar.  red oak neck.. 25 1/2 inch scale.. hard wood nut and movable (floating?) bridge.  Strung with ADG from standard string set and tuned up…Continue

 

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Dave Hutch replied to Donald R MacRae's discussion first build .. strings too high???
"I found this video by Justin Johnson really useful, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IPTQmyNbwpY"
Tuesday
Taffy Evans replied to Donald R MacRae's discussion first build .. strings too high???
"I just checked a couple of my CBG's. Six string set up for slide is 3mm bass 3mm treble over the 12 fret, bridge moved until intonation is perfect. I do not finger frets that high up the neck as I play slide in that area. Does the slide…"
Tuesday
JL replied to Donald R MacRae's discussion first build .. strings too high???
"simple physics, pressing the string down to the fingerboard stretches it tighter.  You can't have both the fretted note in tune and the note from a slide perfectly above the center of the fret. "
Monday
Donald R MacRae replied to Donald R MacRae's discussion first build .. strings too high???
"I heard someplace that a lot of slide guitar players in the old days were blind and couldn't see the positions on neck so the slide would be higher or lower and then move to what sounded right."
Saturday
Taffy Evans replied to Donald R MacRae's discussion first build .. strings too high???
"Thanks for the comment Darryl. All I could add really is that with the use of frets on the fingerboard you will not get perfect intonation as you are battling against a few things that make it difficult. Fixed nut position(can be compensated) fixed…"
Jul 15
Donald R MacRae replied to Donald R MacRae's discussion first build .. strings too high???
"I don't play slide (never played any guitar before).  I am using a slide just to adjust the bridge.  My bridge was already slightly angled .. I did lower the bridge and nut by .5mm and I noticed that the amount it is sharp…"
Jul 14
John Sawyer replied to Donald R MacRae's discussion first build .. strings too high???
"I might be repeating what Darryl said.. but... First, you re not going to get the same perfect intonation with a slide and fretting... so adjust your intonation fretted... Don't adjust the middle string... the high string should be about 3mm…"
Jul 14
darryl kernaghan replied to Donald R MacRae's discussion first build .. strings too high???
"Both Taff and Ron are more knowledgeable than me re intonation, but i suspect they may have missed some detail on your original post, to me, your scale length is in the ball park or better, if so, the only thing you have left is the amount of string…"
Jul 14
Donald R MacRae replied to Donald R MacRae's discussion first build .. strings too high???
"OK .. maybe I wasn't clear with the OP so I will try again ... first with middle string only of open G tuning .. tuned to D3.  String touched just over the 12th fret with a slide and tuner shows D4. This SEEMS to tell me that the…"
Jul 14
Darryl Tuttle left a comment for Donald R MacRae
"My second build was miles ahead of the first...trial and error...now I just have to get better at wiring and so!dering"
Jul 13
Ron "Oily" Sprague replied to Donald R MacRae's discussion first build .. strings too high???
"Sounds like your bridge compensation is off a tad. Is your bridge straight across the strings? You need to compensate for the difference in string diameters. The normal way to do this with a movable bridge is to angle it. First, make sure that your…"
Jul 13
Taffy Evans replied to Donald R MacRae's discussion first build .. strings too high???
"I'd say strings too high at nut,for me, for slide or fretting note. I'd say too high,for me, at the 12th, (normally measured at 12 fret) for fretting but ok for slide. Make the note at the 12 fret sound the same as the open note, adjust…"
Jul 13
Donald R MacRae left a comment for Darryl Tuttle
"got to finish the first one ... then learn to play .. already looking at making a 4 string but after i can make the first one pass recognizable music and not afraid to play in the back yard."
Jul 12
Darryl Tuttle left a comment for Donald R MacRae
"Welcome to CBN! When do you start the second Cbg? It's pretty addicting"
Jul 12
Donald R MacRae posted a discussion

first build .. strings too high???

I just finished (almost) my first 3 string cigar box guitar.  red oak neck.. 25 1/2 inch scale.. hard wood nut and movable (floating?) bridge.  Strung with ADG from standard string set and tuned up Gdg and re-tuned .. and re-tuned.. left for two days .. re-tuned.  String height is level at the bottoms and 1.5mm at first fret and 3 mm at 17th fret.When I tune it (two different phone tuner apps) Gdg and just touch the string above the 12th fret it sounds good and the tuner apps say G2 is now G3..…See More
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At 9:04pm on July 13, 2017, Darryl Tuttle said…

My second build was miles ahead of the first...trial and error...now I just have to get better at wiring and so!dering

At 6:45pm on July 12, 2017, Darryl Tuttle said…

Welcome to CBN! When do you start the second Cbg? It's pretty addicting

 
 
 

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