How do old style wood pegs work out for tuners on cgb’s?  I am considering instituting them into a build.

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Taff will know better than me , but as far as i know the wood tuners aer tapered so are the holes they go into. Friction is what holds the string in tune.

Hi, thanks Tim, if one follows the steps for fitting violin pegs and has the correct timber and correct reamer, no problems.

Its always possible without the above, Im sure others have done it, but if you have the time…… oh! and a set of fine tuners go for it. Tim’s answer was spot on.

Taff

I agree with Taffy about the fine tuners. When I tune my violin it feels like I do not have enough precision to tune by just turning the wooden pegs. I have put a tiny amount of bow rosin on the pegs to add a bit more of friction. Because of the higher tension of guitar strings I think this could be a good trick if you go the wooden peg route.

The thing that makes friction tuners fail is too soft of wood in the headstock or too soft of tuner material? That’s why they use Ebony & Rosewood for tuners on violins, they’re really dense & have great tone quality? Good luck, keep us posted on your progress! 

Oh, I forgot to mention, a peg-shaping tool aids precision, however, you can get geared violin pegs which would overcome the friction problem.
Taff

I encountered the glitch I heard of! It won’t post my reply unless I go to html editor,lost my post but any way in short I said I like the wood tuners because I like wood

Hi, if you are up for a compromise what about tuner with wooden buttons. I have an idea for wood tuners that do not use the violin style of peg fitting. I give it a try and get back.
Taff.

Whatever you do, don’t use softwoods, they’ll spin right off? Oak is a good place to start for tuning pegs & tuner buttons, making tuning pegs requires patience & skill, but not the best for spot on tuning when you’ve got more than one string? That’s the down side of wood tuners! 



Hi, as Brian points out these pegs would be hard to fine-tune, the taper on the shaft needs to match the taper in the peghead for a good grip, and that's where violin fine tuners would help. Also, the peghead material should be hardwood too.



These types of instruments I get for repair suffer tuning problems over time. I'm glad the customer had to live with this one, haha.
Taff

Hi John, as promised I did have a stab at using a wood tuner without using the traditional method of fitting, but getting a good grip against the string tension.

This is my first Mk1 model, I have a weight hanging on the string and it's holding fine, but I'm going to add a dial gauge and see what string pull/poundage it will grip.

Cheers Taff

Hi again, ok so the peg held that string at twenty pounds today.

Next, I'll make my own peg and try this method of fitting to make sure it's easily doable, or at least challenging.
Taff

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