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Permalink Reply by Roosterman on November 5, 2010 at 9:43am

You can do that Josh, no problem!

Though whether it would be worth your extra time, I dont know.

I think 'voice over man' hits the nail on the head when he says its '... a great way to show off your skills....'

I guess there will be a little more surface area for the glue over a butted joint, but surely this cant be as strong as a standard scarf joint?

Discuss :o)

Permalink Reply by colin mcgrath on November 5, 2010 at 9:49am

I agree Rman I am not sure on the strength this might have on a steel string neck, the photos of the guitars shown were nylon. I believe there is more tension on acoustic guitars. But it would look cool! And I would bet you can do it Josh, not a matter of balls to do it...maybe with it working exactly right?

Permalink Reply by Josh Gayou (SmokehouseGuitars) on November 5, 2010 at 10:45am

Heh, thanks for the vote of confidence, guys. I think this will work for steel strings but I'm not so sure about the max strength. It's end grain to end grain after all. Still, I would have to reserve judgment until I saw some objective test data comparing the two methods.

Really the only reason I can think of to do this is that it looks pretty.

Permalink Reply by colin mcgrath on November 5, 2010 at 12:05pm

So I had an idea Josh, what if you have the V joint but make the sides of the male-female V slanted, maybe like dovetail style (to make a best reference). Then the joint will have an extra support holding against the headstock and providing more strength. ?


Josh Gayou (SmokehouseGuitars) said:

Heh, thanks for the vote of confidence, guys. I think this will work for steel strings but I'm not so sure about the max strength. It's end grain to end grain after all. Still, I would have to reserve judgment until I saw some objective test data comparing the two methods.

Really the only reason I can think of to do this is that it looks pretty.

Permalink Reply by Josh Gayou (SmokehouseGuitars) on November 5, 2010 at 12:20pm

I understand what you're saying. Again, you'd be looking at a benefit trade off. On one hand, you'd have the locking mechanism of the dovetail styled joint to resist the forward pull the the strings. On the other, you're reducing the mating surface area of the male/female V at the tip of the triangle (see picture below). Again, you'd have to build two necks using the differing methods and subject them to stress tests to see which is the strongest option.

colin mcgrath said:

So I had an idea Josh, what if you have the V joint but make the sides of the male-female V slanted, maybe like dovetail style (to make a best reference). Then the joint will have an extra support holding against the headstock and providing more strength. ?



Josh Gayou (SmokehouseGuitars) said:

Heh, thanks for the vote of confidence, guys. I think this will work for steel strings but I'm not so sure about the max strength. It's end grain to end grain after all. Still, I would have to reserve judgment until I saw some objective test data comparing the two methods.


Really the only reason I can think of to do this is that it looks pretty.

Permalink Reply by colin mcgrath on November 5, 2010 at 12:34pm

Exactly, nice graphics by the way. I would try myself but...


Josh Gayou (SmokehouseGuitars) said:

I understand what you're saying. Again, you'd be looking at a benefit trade off. On one hand, you'd have the locking mechanism of the dovetail styled joint to resist the forward pull the the strings. On the other, you're reducing the mating surface area of the male/female V at the tip of the triangle (see picture below). Again, you'd have to build two necks using the differing methods and subject them to stress tests to see which is the strongest option.

colin mcgrath said:

So I had an idea Josh, what if you have the V joint but make the sides of the male-female V slanted, maybe like dovetail style (to make a best reference). Then the joint will have an extra support holding against the headstock and providing more strength. ?



Josh Gayou (SmokehouseGuitars) said:

Heh, thanks for the vote of confidence, guys. I think this will work for steel strings but I'm not so sure about the max strength. It's end grain to end grain after all. Still, I would have to reserve judgment until I saw some objective test data comparing the two methods.


Really the only reason I can think of to do this is that it looks pretty.