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Permalink Reply by Michael Gajeski on December 23, 2009 at 9:39am

Now that you've been using them for a bit, has your opinion of them changed at all?

Crow said:

i just built another quickie using eye bolt tuners - have a look!
http://www.cigarboxnation.com/video/eye-bolt-tuners-strike-back

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Permalink Reply by Crow on December 23, 2009 at 11:07am

actually, my opinon of them has become more refined -

i now certainly feel that they have advantages over zither pin tuners. i have a zither pin tuned CBG at my desk at work, and when i need to tune it, it's a MAJOR pain. i don't have the proper wrench, and everything else just tears them up. they look really battle-worn.

the bolt tuners allow me to adjust tension with my bare hands. it's stiff, but workable. having an eye bolt on one side and a wing nut on the other allows me to use both hands to grab it with and i get a lot of control. they also move smoother than zither pins, as the pins have to break friction with the wood before they move, and may jump more than you need. the bolt tuners with washers however, are metal to metal, and move in a smoother (albeit VERY TIGHT) and more controllable fashion.

they take a little skill to get used to, but they work just fine. they cost slightly more per tuner than zither pins, but are much easier to aquire. they're available anywhere, and they require no special tools to install and use (other than a drill for the holes.)

i can certainly say that i'd prefer nice geared tuners, but these work just fine until i feel like forking out twenty bucks per guitar for tuners. right now, my production cost is at or below $10, and production time is just about 1 hour. so the major investment in nice tuners right now would be a waste until i have the ability to produce some really nice, finished instruments.

Michael Gajeski said:

Now that you've been using them for a bit, has your opinion of them changed at all?

Crow said:

i just built another quickie using eye bolt tuners - have a look!
http://www.cigarboxnation.com/video/eye-bolt-tuners-strike-back

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Permalink Reply by Crow on December 26, 2009 at 10:37am

now, if i could get a 6-pack of open-backs for ten bucks, that be $5 per instrument for MUCH better tuners than the bolts i've got and as it is, it's around $3 for the bolts and wing nuts for each guitar, all said.

so i would defininitely be interested. i've been looking for a good wholesale bulk source of cheap tuners for a long time,but cannot find any...

Scott Winburn said:

Crow, you should be able to find open-back "economy" geared tuners for around $10-$12. My last tuner purchase were small headed closed-back tuners that were $8.99 for a set of 6. They are obviously cheap, but they work just as well as every other geared tuner i've used. I wish i could remember the source, but i recently lost all my email history in a crash. Check the "Hot Deals" group here on CBN... i may have posted a link to it..

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Permalink Reply by Michael Gajeski on December 28, 2009 at 2:57am

I think I actually posted a link in the hot deals group for tuners at 99 cents a piece.

Crow said:

now, if i could get a 6-pack of open-backs for ten bucks, that be $5 per instrument for MUCH better tuners than the bolts i've got and as it is, it's around $3 for the bolts and wing nuts for each guitar, all said.

so i would defininitely be interested. i've been looking for a good wholesale bulk source of cheap tuners for a long time,but cannot find any...

Scott Winburn said:

Crow, you should be able to find open-back "economy" geared tuners for around $10-$12. My last tuner purchase were small headed closed-back tuners that were $8.99 for a set of 6. They are obviously cheap, but they work just as well as every other geared tuner i've used. I wish i could remember the source, but i recently lost all my email history in a crash. Check the "Hot Deals" group here on CBN... i may have posted a link to it..

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Permalink Reply by Andy on January 16, 2010 at 7:30pm

my recent experiment might be nice for didley, opened up the eye bolt. The two nuts on left can be tightened into each other and lock in the amount of friction, cheap and do not loosen or wear out like lock nuts do. Below is something interesting for the group on the web.

Michael Gajeski said:

I think I actually posted a link in the hot deals group for tuners at 99 cents a piece.

Crow said:

now, if i could get a 6-pack of open-backs for ten bucks, that be $5 per instrument for MUCH better tuners than the bolts i've got and as it is, it's around $3 for the bolts and wing nuts for each guitar, all said.


so i would defininitely be interested. i've been looking for a good wholesale bulk source of cheap tuners for a long time,but cannot find any... Scott Winburn said:

Crow, you should be able to find open-back "economy" geared tuners for around $10-$12. My last tuner purchase were small headed closed-back tuners that were $8.99 for a set of 6. They are obviously cheap, but they work just as well as every other geared tuner i've used. I wish i could remember the source, but i recently lost all my email history in a crash. Check the "Hot Deals" group here on CBN... i
may have posted a link to it..

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