Finally started my first build. It'll be out of a 10 3/4 x 6 1/2 cigar box instead of a box I build myself. Be a 3 string fretless. Got me some bone to cut into the nut and bridge. Got everything going and then hit a snag. Even though it'll be fretless I'd still like to mark the frets. Went to 'fretfind-2D and printed out a 22 fret 24 scale fret board. Just to get a 23 fret 24.5 scale pic. It doesn't matter what I program the thing to give me. It always send me a 24.5 scale neck. LOL So I've got a fret scale charts coming ( thanks to a link by Randy S. Bretz. His link,

Views: 119


You need to be a member of Cigar Box Nation to add comments!

Join Cigar Box Nation

Comment by Glenn Reither on July 28, 2010 at 12:35am

And the stretch compansation option works well.
Comment by Paul Stephen Eklund on July 27, 2010 at 6:55am
Glenn Reither, with the charts I'll be able to get different scale lengths than just the 24 3/4 and 25 1/2 that i have. I do like your idea about using a metal strip for the scales I'll use the most.

YeahDoIt, totally cool idea! But I kinda ned all the frets. Anything to help my playing. LOL
Comment by Glenn Reither on July 26, 2010 at 9:00am
Careful using printed fret scales. Your printer, or someone else's, might not print it accurately. Mine was out by several mm. A better way is to use an aluminium strip. Call one end 0 (the nut). Measure the fret positions with a yard ruler and mark the aluminium with a scribe along one edge. Also mark the bridge position. Number all the frets along with their position from the nut to the nearest 1/10th of a mm. Label the strip with what scale length it is and any other info you might need, like stretch compensation. Speaking of, the EXMI fret calculator (online) has an option for stretch compensation. I prefer their stretch-compensated scale to a pure math one.
You can make a new aluminium fret ruler each time you try a different scale length (I use 610 mm mostly but have a 650 mm one made up in case I want to go back to a fullscale length) and you'll have a nice collection to choose from for different boxes. Sometimes you need a different scale length to fit 19 frets on and still have good pridge position on the box.
Aluminium won't stretch or shrink like paper can.
Hope that helps. Good luck.
Comment by YeahDoIt on July 26, 2010 at 7:34am
Looks nice so far.

I just mark my neck with a pencil, identify the 5, 7, and 12 fret positions by harmonics.

People are really impressed when I open the cigar box and show the insides. They just love that.

The Essential Pages

New to Cigar Box Nation? How to Play Cigar Box GuitarsFree Plans & How to Build Cigar Box GuitarsCigar Box Guitar Building BasicsCigar Box Guitar Parts Store

Site Sponsor

Recommended Links & Resources



2021 Throwback Holiday Build-Off Contest!

Started by Cigar Box Nation in Feature Articles. Last reply by RICHARD RUTHERFORD yesterday. 36 Replies

Squaring the neck

Started by Fantacone Box Works in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Taffy Evans Nov 19. 16 Replies

Completed Builds

Started by ThePracticalPeasant in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Derek Waters Nov 5. 6 Replies

Blog Posts

Uncle Enos CBG Banjo Build

Posted by Greg on November 29, 2021 at 7:24pm 0 Comments

To Reach the Chord

Posted by Rich on November 12, 2021 at 10:20am 0 Comments

Seasonal build contest?

Posted by smilingdog1 on October 29, 2021 at 9:20am 9 Comments

Leonard Cohen Life

Posted by Keith Rearick on October 7, 2021 at 11:18am 2 Comments

Latest Activity

BrianQ. liked Gary O'slide's video
29 minutes ago
Keith Rearick liked Dale Armstrong's photo
35 minutes ago
Keith Rearick liked Dale Armstrong's photo
36 minutes ago
Keith Rearick liked Dale Armstrong's photo
36 minutes ago
Keith Rearick liked Dale Armstrong's photo
37 minutes ago
Keith Rearick commented on A.D.EKER's photo

RIP Ted Crocker

"RIP Ted. He will be missed. Some had joined his club. Is it still open, or has it closed?"
37 minutes ago
Keith Rearick liked A.D.EKER's photo
39 minutes ago
Dale Armstrong posted photos
48 minutes ago
Keith Rearick liked AGP #'s video
49 minutes ago
A.D.EKER commented on A.D.EKER's album

RIP TED Crocker

"Heard it treu the Grapevine."
1 hour ago
A.D.EKER posted a photo

RIP Ted Crocker

Tribute to a old member
1 hour ago
BrianQ. liked AGP #'s video
1 hour ago


© 2021   Created by Ben "C. B. Gitty" Baker.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service

\uastyle>\ud/** Scrollup **/\ud.scrollup {\ud background: url("") no-repeat scroll 0 0 transparent;\ud bottom: 25px;\ud display: inline !important;\ud height: 40px;\ud opacity: 0.3 !important;\ud position: fixed;\ud right: 30px;\ud text-indent: -9999px;\ud width: 40px;\ud z-index: 999;\ud}\ud.scrollup:hover {\ud opacity:0.99!important;\ud}\ud \uascript type="text/javascript">\ud x$(document).ready(function(){\ud x$(window).scroll(function(){\ud if (x$(this).scrollTop() > 100) {\ud x$('.scrollup').fadeIn();\ud } else {\ud x$('.scrollup').fadeOut();\ud }\ud });\ud x$('.scrollup').click(function(){\ud x$("html, body").animate({ scrollTop: 0 }, 600);\ud return false;\ud });\ud });\ud \ua!-- End Scroll Up -->