Ey up!

 

Hopefully by now you are all aware that something is well and truly 'going on' with our UK CBG scene.

The first festival was a huge sucess, with around 25 folk attending the day sessions, and 60 for the evening gig.

This almost doubled to 50 and 100 respectivly for this years fest - and from what I gather, a lot more than attend many of the US events. And they invented it! ;o)

Clearly our scene is exploding... and I reckon it will continue to do so.

A lot of this is down to you, the participants, the anonymous benefactors, and the hardwork that Chickenbone John and a few others put in throughout the year doing all the planning and organising.

 

As it stands at the minute, John shells out his own cash, then worries if he'll get it back on the night! He spends hours planning, meeting, travelling, discussing - all at his own expense.

The performers play on the assumtion they will not be getting paid. They pay their own travel and accomodation costs. As it turned out this year, the anonymous donation and the good turn out, coupled with the deal done with the venue, meant they did get a little financial help, but they were there out of their own good will and dedication to the scene.

 

So, heres my point (FINALLY!!)

 

Wouldnt it be great if we had a little money in the kitty to help with all these little costs? Maybe to lay on food at the next fest? Help John with some of the planning costs? Or to actually pay the preformers something like a proper wage? Maybe cover venue costs so we can avoid the dreaded door split? Or, to put it another way;

 

To support the scene we all take so much from, and to ensure its continued success.

 

Lets just imagine for a moment that John cant afford the time off to organise next years fest, or that Hollowbelly cant afford to come and give a workshop and gig... pretty dreary picture huh? You would be left with me, in a dingy pub, talking nonsense for 15 hours. Not worth 25p...

I know what youre thinking. Sounds like a begging letter, but trust me, its not - I have a plan!

And better than that, everyone gets a little something back too :o)

 

The plan is to set up a UK CBG Registry (for want of a better name - it would be cool to include all homemade instruments).

 

And this is how it would work;

 

* There would be a nominal fee to join - say £5 per year. This would give us a few hundred quid to do something with next year.

 

* There would be NO obligation to join, and not joining would have NO effect on you attending the festival, etc etc - the idea of this is to support our democracy and help it grow, not to divide folk.

 

* For your £5, you would get a membership number, maybe a downloadable logo with said number (so if you are building / selling / preforming etc you can show you are affiliated, so to speak - handy if you Ebay etc) and your name on 'The List'

 

* 'The List' will therefore be a Uk directory of of builders and players and interested folk. If someone was activly looking for an artist, or a builder, or even just folk to interview for a documentary, what better resource?

 

* The registry would also have the benefit of drawing in folk who are on the fringes of what we do. Plenty of folk build and sell on Ebay, but dont come here or to the shows. Maybe seeing everyone else affiliated would motivate them to get a bit more involved. Same goes for players - lets get everyone together and share our tips, help each other, and educate the rest of the musical world together!

 

* As an additional benefit, once we have a proper group set up in this way, and with a little extra paperwork, we can apply for outside funding. Want to see Seasick Steve play the next UK festival? This could pay for it. Seriously.

 

Incidentally, I did also think about a sticker for your guitar case, but this then becomes a 'money in, money out' affair and doesnt actually raise anything for the kitty. Maybe a bit of merchandising could be done as a seperate venture?

 

I am volunteering to help set all this up, and it would be done properly with an elected board, proper accounts etc, so its all above board and,most importantly, for the good of the group.

 

So - thoughts please!

 

Im asking for honest open opinions here folk, so dont hold back! DO, however, try to read the whole thing before you start on about making it elitist etc etc - I think its pretty clear thats not the point!

 

Thanks again

Ben

 

 

 

 

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Where do i sign up sounds a really great idea
I am The Godfather, and I approve this message...that's what I'm supposed to say, isn't it?
Having missed the last event and done nothing to help the scene out other than winning guitars at last years raffle I think this is a great idea. I have been so busy this year I have barely picked up a guitar but would love to help out in any way I can. I may be too busy working to do any ground work but the benefits of that work are that I can afford to help out a little more on the cash side. I will throw £100 in straight away, anyone else who can afford to should put some cash in to support those who can't. I can probably put more in down the line but let's make sure it is set up properly and get the UK CBG Foundation or whatever you want to call it, doing good, spreading the word and getting the craft out there for the younger generation and older lazier people like me. I can pass this around some other people who might help out too.

I think it is a fantastic idea and something that is really needed to help the scene grow out of a niche. Busking in downtown London or in Notting Hill at the Portobello markets would also be great fund raisers. T shirts and such like might also work well to get the message out.

Talk to you soon,
Ryan.
Excellent idea, count me in, anything that helps at grass roots level has got to be a good thing. One word of caution; try not ot let it become a clique. I know it's not the intention but have seen similar well intentioned movements ruined by 'elitism'. I am not suggesting this will go the same way, just a cautionary note.
I think it's a great idea. In order to get more people to join and bring more money in, how about making the fee £10 but that entitles the member to a £5 discount at the next fest. That way you get more money up front to fund the pre-fest expenses, have a small incentive to buy a ticket next time and if you can't make it then £5 lost is not going to break the bank and the fund gets to keep it for the following year. Maybe there could be some other non-cost benefits you'd get too.
Yep count me in :) - sounds like a great idea for us all - i also think £10 would be a lot better - there are around 200 members in the Brit's are coming that equates to £2,000 i'm sure not everyone will contribute but they should it's for a good cause as the cause is for us !

juju :)
With you all the way Ben.
Although I have yet to attend a Fest I still think it a good idea, even though I am living further away from Brum than I ever did in N Wales.
Next year I am hoping to make the fest and bring my new Lady with me, who I have been teaching to play 6 string. I reckon, at the rate she is going, it will be her who teaches me to master 3 strings (still find 12 strings easier).

Keep the updates coming guys let us know what gets set up.
Hogs.
Yep I'm in too.A sound idea. no one should have to worry that they may not cover expenses when working their butt off for the common good.
The idea sounds as good as a good delta blues player. Count me in, I can offer time and a donation, with no strings or privileges.
I think we are aiming to keep it as inclusive as possible. There's none of us here professional full-time musicians and promoters (as far as I know), so I think we need to help ourselves as much as we can. To get the movement some serious real-world credibility in terms of having more clout, trying to get funding, muscle-in on some venues and events, we need to have some serious real-world presence..and unfortunately that means going thru' all the boring stuff of drawing up a constitution, club-status bank account etc. However, once it's set up, it means we have a proper, official presence that venues, promoters and funders would recognise and be able to do business with. It's like when someone stumped-up money for the concession tickets..I'd have felt a lot more comfortable being able to bank that in a club account rather having to have the money "resting in my account"..Father Ted style. It might seem a bit official and heavy duty..but membership is open to all, it's all accessible and above-board. Absolutely no clique intended to develop, it's all about fighting your corner and helping everybody enjoy this scene by doing the best best job we can. Not everyone can do something practical, but I think this could also help pull people together, even if it's just sticking a fiver or a tenner in the pot helping seed some development and growth.

Tim Porter said:
Excellent idea, count me in, anything that helps at grass roots level has got to be a good thing. One word of caution; try not ot let it become a clique. I know it's not the intention but have seen similar well intentioned movements ruined by 'elitism'. I am not suggesting this will go the same way, just a cautionary note.
tens a nice round number.
The reason I find this idea appealing is that it gives us power.A tenner in our own individual pockets cant buy a lot-a tenner from all of us put together and we have clout-need a venue? we hire it.need to advertise? we buy it..the power of the collective has always appealed to me.I believe in unions.strength in numbers an all that.
Right on, Brother HB! There's plenty to sort out in terms of the practicalities and the details, but me and Ben are already on the case. Certainly the UK fests have had a lot of input from me, but it's the collective support that's vital, otherwise nothing would have happened.


HOLLOWBELLY said:
tens a nice round number.
The reason I find this idea appealing is that it gives us power.A tenner in our own individual pockets cant buy a lot-a tenner from all of us put together and we have clout-need a venue? we hire it.need to advertise? we buy it..the power of the collective has always appealed to me.I believe in unions.strength in numbers an all that.

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