I have a couple Teisco tulip parts and beater project guitars. I see lots of differences in all of the tulip bodies. I don't have two identical out of 5. CloudyProject.com got me hooked on the tulips after I searched Teiscos after finding a hollow body at a local music store that had that old Mark Farner Grand Funk Railroad sound.
This tulip is the coolest one I ever saw. The body is narrower and rounder on the edges with deep horn cutaway and just a real cool eye candy streamlining to it. It has a hidden truss rod. There's a model with an exposed truss rod like normal Teiscos, but the body has a traditional width and close to traditional proportion that doesn't grab me like this one. It reminds me of an Ibanez Roadstar bass that looked like melted candy! Really HOT!
Is this an E-110?
Note the rounded horns on the heal of the neck for seating points. They started figuring out the physics...
Earlier routing type with later horn shape... This confuses me!
Routed with rigid core for sustain.
I also have a body that is routed for two pickups like modern guitars are except for the overkill connection to the control cavity.
Does anyone know all of the tulip model designations and their chronology. Sometimes I think they were just taking what parts they had on hand and throwing guitars out the door... It's obvious they were constantly re-engineering everything, but it really feels like they had leftover parts after a design change and ended up throwing them into guitars later to get the parts out the door. I guess they must have gotten requests for earlier models because it just happens. Sometimes people like older designs, and sometimes they just have an old catalog!
Who on the planet knows the most about this stuff?
Annonimous Pick seems to know a lot. He's the man...
awwwww ,, ( blush ) .. :-}
from what i can tell with teisco's history . these inconsistencies can be explained in a few ways .
teisco had the old custom door to door salesman approach to dept stores . sears , Woolworths etc ... could actually pick certain design aspects of guitar models and even request model mods ( i actually have a salesman sample with an un-drilled neck ... i also had a body with a magnet though the middle to place pick up samples on ) . this also explains some mix matching .
tulips were the most popular model , some stores wanted to be a lil different than other stores selling them .. even branding them a different name , then you have to take into account Canadian imports, .. a Canadian ";checkmate " branded tulip will look different that an american of the same year .
then you have to take into account the year ,, the tulip model was a best seller .. so they did not want to change it too drastically , so they only added subtle changes for different years .
also , in many models ,, not just tulip .. you will notice the exact same model , same year , same factory , same # etc ,, may be made out of different wood .. this is because in the 60's , wood prices always went up and down, like gas today .. lol .. and they just grabbed in bulk whatever was cheap at the time .
another reason .. is exactly as you guessed .. sometimes they just said .. " what the hell" .. and tossed shit together and out the door . ;-)
another reason is ,, you might not be looking at a teisco .. it could be a st george or kawia etc .. model
anyway .. that's my free opinion .. and probably worth every penny ;-)
And like all business customers, they all wanted the hands down cheapest! LOL
ps .. there is no such thing as a " complete teisco history account " lol, .. but the links at the top of the group page may help ...
http://www.mark-cole.co.uk/teisco/ great info and id your guit
.http://www.myrareguitars.com/1960guitars.html some great guits here .
http://guitar.webinjp.com/catalog_guitar.htm vintage teisco catalogueshttp://www.vintageguitar.com/1745/teisco-guitars-part-i/ teisco guitars part1
http://www.vintageguitar.com/1746/teisco-guitars-part-ii/ part 2
http://www.mark-cole.co.uk/teisco/ this is great for model pics
Thanks. There sure is a lot missing!
I'll recommend you to join my Facebook group Teisco Vintage Guitar Owners https://www.facebook.com/groups/teisco/
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Hope to see you soon :-)
Cheers & Beers Allan