wiring/soldering tips - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-29T00:08:47Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/wiring-soldering-tips?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A2487600&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMany ways to skin this cat,bu…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2016-01-12:2592684:Comment:24876002016-01-12T16:34:46.226Zdarryl kernaghanhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/darrylkernaghan
<p>Many ways to skin this cat,but even if you DO need to attach 6 wires to the back of a pot,tin your pot with a healthy spot of solder,join and solder your earth wires together,then introduce the combined wires to your tinned pot with a bit of heat,just make it fluid and all done,everything clean and you should not need to inflict excess heat on the pot</p>
<p>Many ways to skin this cat,but even if you DO need to attach 6 wires to the back of a pot,tin your pot with a healthy spot of solder,join and solder your earth wires together,then introduce the combined wires to your tinned pot with a bit of heat,just make it fluid and all done,everything clean and you should not need to inflict excess heat on the pot</p> I know a lot of mass-produced…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2016-01-12:2592684:Comment:24875142016-01-12T15:41:48.580ZJLhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JL239
<p>I know a lot of mass-produced instruments are wired like that, using the body of the volume pot as a common ground connection point, but have you ever tried to replace a failed volume pot that was wired like that? pain in the output! </p>
<p>they do that because every inch of copper wire they can shortcut saves $$$/day in profit when mass producing hundreds per day. </p>
<p>I know a lot of mass-produced instruments are wired like that, using the body of the volume pot as a common ground connection point, but have you ever tried to replace a failed volume pot that was wired like that? pain in the output! </p>
<p>they do that because every inch of copper wire they can shortcut saves $$$/day in profit when mass producing hundreds per day. </p> oh, and forgot the 2 pup shie…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2016-01-12:2592684:Comment:24872722016-01-12T14:46:04.180ZJLhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JL239
<p>oh, and forgot the 2 pup shielding wires that needed to be grounded, that makes 8-9 grounds to tie together.</p>
<p>oh, and forgot the 2 pup shielding wires that needed to be grounded, that makes 8-9 grounds to tie together.</p> you see a ground loop in the…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2016-01-12:2592684:Comment:24874242016-01-12T14:43:33.195ZJLhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JL239
<p>you see a ground loop in the diagram?</p>
<p>you see a ground loop in the diagram?</p> Thank you all...I now feel my…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2016-01-11:2592684:Comment:24867302016-01-11T23:19:46.980ZThumperhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RolandGerson
<p>Thank you all...I now feel my guesses are "grounded" with logic LOL.</p>
<p>Thank you all...I now feel my guesses are "grounded" with logic LOL.</p> All pickups have a "hot" and…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2016-01-11:2592684:Comment:24865402016-01-11T18:49:06.458ZChickenboneJohnhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/ChickenboneJohn
<p>All pickups have a "hot" and a "ground" wire, whether they are piezo or magnetic. Some magnetic pickups have multiple conductors, for example in humbuckers, each coil may have a hot and ground wire allowing various configurations to be switched , such as full humbucking, single coil, out of phase etc.</p>
<p>All pickups have a "hot" and a "ground" wire, whether they are piezo or magnetic. Some magnetic pickups have multiple conductors, for example in humbuckers, each coil may have a hot and ground wire allowing various configurations to be switched , such as full humbucking, single coil, out of phase etc.</p> Wayfinder, if I ground the ja…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2016-01-11:2592684:Comment:24863592016-01-11T18:44:02.032ZThumperhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RolandGerson
<p>Wayfinder, if I ground the jack aren't I grounding the entire system? If not, how do I ground a piezo, it only has 2 wires????... t hrough the volume pot ground going to the jack ground?thanx for the input on the tailpiece method.</p>
<p>Wayfinder, if I ground the jack aren't I grounding the entire system? If not, how do I ground a piezo, it only has 2 wires????... t hrough the volume pot ground going to the jack ground?thanx for the input on the tailpiece method.</p> Running multiple grounds is c…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2016-01-11:2592684:Comment:24865332016-01-11T18:42:14.815ZChickenboneJohnhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/ChickenboneJohn
<p>Running multiple grounds is crazily over-complicated: there's even more stuff to go bad. Keep it simple, do it like the pros...just take look inside any decent electric guitar and copy that, and learn how to do a good solder joint. Here's a Seymour Duncan layout...not quite how I do it, but simple and effective.…</p>
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<p>Running multiple grounds is crazily over-complicated: there's even more stuff to go bad. Keep it simple, do it like the pros...just take look inside any decent electric guitar and copy that, and learn how to do a good solder joint. Here's a Seymour Duncan layout...not quite how I do it, but simple and effective.</p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306517498?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306517498?profile=original" height="749" width="579"></a></p> Please explain the grounding…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2016-01-11:2592684:Comment:24864602016-01-11T18:23:37.830ZThumperhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RolandGerson
<p>Please explain the grounding method, I've been running a wire from the jack to the metal tailstock.</p>
<p>Please explain the grounding method, I've been running a wire from the jack to the metal tailstock.</p> I generally bend the ground t…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2016-01-11:2592684:Comment:24864472016-01-11T17:43:45.673ZDiglydoghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Diglydog
<p>I generally bend the ground tab back and solder it to the body - no wires. Similarly, bridge the tone cap from the ground tab to the tone body. That removes 2 of the 5 ground wires on your diagram. On that diagram, I'd ground the pup and the tone body to the volume body and then ground that to the jack. That means that you have 3 wires soldered to the vol pot body, which isn't a problem.</p>
<p>I think that, as long as you don't incorporate loops in the ground circuit, you're OK. Your…</p>
<p>I generally bend the ground tab back and solder it to the body - no wires. Similarly, bridge the tone cap from the ground tab to the tone body. That removes 2 of the 5 ground wires on your diagram. On that diagram, I'd ground the pup and the tone body to the volume body and then ground that to the jack. That means that you have 3 wires soldered to the vol pot body, which isn't a problem.</p>
<p>I think that, as long as you don't incorporate loops in the ground circuit, you're OK. Your diagram shows a loop on the tone and vol pots. I'm not sure why loops may cause problems but I've been advised against them. Problems with soldered joints are more likely to be a result of poor soldering. Good luck !</p>