I would like to learn how to make digital recordings of my newly built diddley bows.
(and future CBGs, as my experience grows)
These websites are among places I have searched for information to educate myself on the process, and what gear may be required to accomplish the task.

As I learn, a description of my goal might be to record what is called a podcast.
If there were to be a background soundtrack underlying all, it would definitely be the Kinks, performing Low Budget !
(Pls, pull it up on Youtube!)

There are many devices to get the sound from the source to the computer.

Direct recording to PC using the mic input, with the onboard audio capability was never a consideration, as I knew the quality would be poor, and I don't even own a microphone for the computer...

Handheld digital audio recorders were first to come to my attention.
For $100 the Zoom H1 or Tascam DR-01 can be shipped to your door.
They are quite small, operate off batteries, and may be positioned upon a camera tripod as you play your instrument.

Other similar devices, for less, are most likely best suited to voice recording, dictation/notes.

The H1 and DR-01 each have a pair of mics, will accept external mics, and store audio on a sd chip.

A significant step up from these is the Zoom H4n which has extensive features including multi-track recording and it will directly interface with a DAW. (Digital Audio Workstation, a software program on your computer for mixing and production)
Freeware and shareware are available for D/L.

IMO, based upon reviews at any number of websites, as a newbie, I would purchase a Tascam DR-01 because I like the physical operating button arangement of the device, the display, and it's ability to easily identify various audio files created.
This level of recording devices is apparently quite useful and highly thought of by, and for, singer/songwriters.

Perhaps a next step up would be to use either a direct interface to the computer via firewire or USB interface and do all the mixing required via the DAW software on the computer.
A guitar, and/or microphone may be connected for conversion a computer can make use of.
There are many levels of quality and capability available in this equipment.
Some, consider this a superior method to using an analogue mixer prior to manipulation of the sound within the DAW.

Another option would be to employ a mixer, which would accept inputs from instruments, microphones, and other devices.
It would combine them for transmission to the recording device, or computer, for manipulation within the DAW.

I have made note that a particular acoustic guitar virtuoso employs as many as 6 microphones at one time while recording a session. At a newbie level, this probably will not be required, but it does warrant consideration. (Perhaps two for your CBG, one for your vocals, that many for a friend who may wish to accompany you... and how about a drum machine, or an additional vocalist or bass player??? :-) It goes on, endlessly.)

If you are using piezos in your CBG, you are going to want, or need a pre-amp for the input to your recording device.
Mixers have pre-amps in them, and most have at least 1 or 2 channels available with phantom power, for use with condenser microphones.

A mixer may add value to the overall sound of your audio production. Time domain (delay units and loop machines), frequency domain (EQ's) and dynamic domain (reverb/adding space and compressors for creating sustain and evening out the sound level).
This may be better accomplished with individual effects pedals, or within the DAW.

At the newbie level, I'm looking at Behringer products. 802, 1202, 1204, with effects or not, some with the USB option.
You might have a look at the Behringer UCA202 Audio Interface.

Somewhere in this presentation, the M-Audio 2496 Audiophile PC computer card should be considered. Review it's specs to see if it is suitable for your purposes.

A dynamic microphone is generally the first option for a newbie. Options include omni, and cardioid pattern.
At this level, the Shure SM 57 & 58 are the shining stars to which all others are compared.
Also look at Behringer xm8500 and GLS sm57 & 58.

Condenser microphones are said to capture vocals and acoutic guitars particularly well.
They are somewhat more expensive, and require power, from some source, which may be the mixer.
A discriminating vocalist could easily spend a thousand dollars on a quality condenser microphone, upwards.
Of particular interest to me are the Behringer C-2 and ECM 8000, which are well under $100.

A USB mic is not advised, if only because it ties up a port.

Connection cables are important, as well as extra cables on hand!
The quality of Monster cables was advised to me. They are pricey.
Mogami is also a top name.
GLS offers bulk packs of cables for instrument and microphone, inexpensively.

I am a proponent of buying locally. If possible.
There are no manufacturers, or even music stores in my little two horse town.
I am a craigslist shopper.
It's a great way to help musicians upgrade their gear and improve their capability, help out students, and buy gear at a somewhat discounted price.
This is also the best way to collect an amazing amount of defunct items that are not worth repairing, or are about to fail, with no chance of a warranty and no guarantee. (I've got a pile!)
I purchase items from online vendors, with a first eye towards vendors who support the forum.

In my quest for an education I am a price shopper. Value for my dollar.
I'm not on a Low Budget, there is no budget.

When I read an advertisement for some sort of gear on Craigslist, I Google it, and see what information is out there.
Amazon is HUGE!
If an item appears in their roster, I read the reviews, consider the number of reviews of that item, then look to what might be most popular in that category of gear, and why...
I also look to MusiciansFriend, ZZSound and other vendors to find if an item is current, and what reviews may be present there. Information from ebay listings is helpful, too.
Also, searches at homerecording.com and gearslutz is very helpful.

All information inevitably leads to investigation of other options.

Still, there is an education to be had that far exceeds that which a gamer will find himself with, at the end of the day.

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www.homerecording.com good information site

www.harmonycentral.com

www.audioforums.com

www.recording.org

www.tapeop.com

www.tweakheadz.com/guide.htm good info

www.pianosoft-europe.com/download.htm
free mp-three converter?


http://www.cockos.com/reaper/index.php the reaper site

Audacity: http://audacity.sourceforge.net (multi-track with VST support) free version is single track?
Wavosaur: http://www.wavosaur.com/ (a stereo audio file editor with VST support)\
Kristal: http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/
Other freebies and shareware: www.hitsquad.com/smm


http://www.mixguides.com/index.html

gearslutz good information site

http://www.humbuckermusic.com/1001.html

http://www.audioforums.com/forums/forum.php

http://www.shurenotes.com/

Using a $100 audio card in your PC
http://maxqubit.wordpress.com/2011/09/01/latency-and-irqs-m-audio-a...


If anyone has additions, corrections, improvements, or any positive input on this newbie presentation, Please help!

Best

rc

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Could moderator amend this post so something prettier shows up as the post tile in the roster of new posts!

I'm trying to learn this website...   used to phpbb and Vbulletin

tnx

rc

Today I've read about the Behringer ADA 8000 8 channel A/D D/A Converter.

It's got a whole bunch of inputs, with phantom power and pre-amps for great expansion capability with a TOSLINK ADAT I/O.  

This is an option to using an analogue mixer, for doing such tasks within the DAW.

The optical link system can carry 8 channels of signal simultaneously.

Far superior to the Firewire links which are in turn more effective than USB connections.

Of course more $'s are involved for bigger, better components.  Rated by many as a great value, discounted pricing runs about $250.

I've located another home recording presentation, with plenty of details at

http://www.netplaces.com/home-recording/

Best

rc

Check out the book "Guerilla Hoe Recording" by Karl Coryat. For you linux users, there's tons of free recording stuff: DAWS, drums, format converters, etc. I use Indamixx (which is not free), which is dialed in to netbooks. For lo-fi, USB mic and guitar cables are available cheap, you can amp/preamp it in the box.

Tnx Dawg!

I checked out the excerpts from Guerilla Home Recording over at Amazon...  Seems like great info for a start in the right direction.

If you would drop some pearls of wisdom :-) here from time to time that would be excellent!

..........

elsewhere...

I just discovered a pair of tube pre-amps for sale on my local craigslist.  offered pretty cheap, as they go...

the fellow says he is upgrading....

SO, I ran the make and model number through a google search and discovered the model was quite dated, and originally sold for not too much more than the asking price, and from reviews posted in a few places, was not very popular and prone to problems.  Other reviews described how current models by different companies did much more for a far lower price!

I'm also learning to use Google Images as a search tool...

It gives me a better picture of items described, and each image presented has the source of the image. The background does show a bit of the dialogue where the source is, and if there is interesting information there, you can easily go to that site for in depth information.

..and it all leads to further searches on unfamiliar terms !   :-)

Best

rc

Today I found a mackie 1604 listed for sale.  Bargain price!

Totally retro, old-school, analogue mixing board, and built like a tank!

almost everything built now-a-days has better specs, 

but mackie was first to put an affordable mixer into the marketplace that bands could actually afford!

I sure enough won't need 16 inputs and 7 outs per channel!!!, but what an awesome board!

Hope I can work something out with the seller...

:-)

rc

...this goes back to what I had mentioned earlier...   would you desire to use an analogue/digital converter and go direct into 'the box' with your sound, and mix it within your computer, or would you want to set up the mix, even partially, then send it into your pc for recording???  or sending to the amplifier for your live performance...

...SO much to learn here!

:-)

rc

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