Piezo location - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-29T15:36:44Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/piezo-location?groupUrl=piezopickup&commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A1540345&groupId=2592684%3AGroup%3A549455&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi, I'm very new to this and…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2016-03-29:2592684:Comment:25563682016-03-29T13:33:51.249ZCJWilkyhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/CJWilky
<p>Hi, I'm very new to this and nearly finished my first build which is a 3 string 5 litre oil can. I'm aiming to have two piezos, one for a "hot" sound, one for something different.</p>
<p>I've tested a few positions inside and the hottest place I found so far was under the bridge on the threaded rod that goes into the neck. This is very close to the top, maybe 1cm. The rod itself carries a lot of resonnance which is possibly why this is a hot spot. Interestingly, having the piezo facing…</p>
<p>Hi, I'm very new to this and nearly finished my first build which is a 3 string 5 litre oil can. I'm aiming to have two piezos, one for a "hot" sound, one for something different.</p>
<p>I've tested a few positions inside and the hottest place I found so far was under the bridge on the threaded rod that goes into the neck. This is very close to the top, maybe 1cm. The rod itself carries a lot of resonnance which is possibly why this is a hot spot. Interestingly, having the piezo facing downwards, away from the bridge has the strongest tone, which may be because it's more directly picking up the resonnance in the can.</p>
<p>On the rod very near the neck is much less hot but has a different tone, more than just duller.</p>
<p>I'm still finishing this off, will test further and report back.</p> That's a nice looking CBG! Th…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2013-12-16:2592684:Comment:18240792013-12-16T03:54:49.499ZBert the Welderhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BerttheWelder
<p>That's a nice looking CBG! The ends look like Allsorts candy :) What's the rod material? How did this sound compared to a more standard style bridge.</p>
<p>That's a nice looking CBG! The ends look like Allsorts candy :) What's the rod material? How did this sound compared to a more standard style bridge.</p> Here`s an idea I did [ don`t…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2013-08-29:2592684:Comment:17051902013-08-29T16:10:24.053ZRandy S. Bretzhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RandySBretz
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306127556?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306127556?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"></a>Here`s an idea I did [ don`t think it`s ever been done before ] floating saddle. There`s a piezo disc on each end of the bridge.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306127556?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306127556?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"></a>Here`s an idea I did [ don`t think it`s ever been done before ] floating saddle. There`s a piezo disc on each end of the bridge.</p> Haven't tried any other metho…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2013-04-26:2592684:Comment:15403452013-04-26T02:33:08.663ZThomas "Duck" Petryhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/ThomasPetry
<p>Haven't tried any other methods so I can't compare results, but I've been very happy with the tone and clarity of sound.</p>
<p>Haven't tried any other methods so I can't compare results, but I've been very happy with the tone and clarity of sound.</p> Thanks Tom I guess I just wa…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2013-04-25:2592684:Comment:15399422013-04-25T21:21:46.861ZJack Nollerhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JackNoller
<p>Thanks Tom I guess I just wanted to make sure the Piezos had 100% contact to pick up the vibrations. I thought silicone since it is like rubber would dampen the vibration and not allow for a clean sound.</p>
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<p>Thanks Tom I guess I just wanted to make sure the Piezos had 100% contact to pick up the vibrations. I thought silicone since it is like rubber would dampen the vibration and not allow for a clean sound.</p>
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<p>Jack</p> I have used the silicon as if…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2013-04-25:2592684:Comment:15395712013-04-25T17:36:39.272ZThomas "Duck" Petryhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/ThomasPetry
<p>I have used the silicon as if there is a future problem I can cut it out and replace a Piezo if necessary without having to make a new bridge. When I cover the back side I over fill the cavity and use a putty knife to level the surface off and it leaves a thin film on the oak that keeps the bridge from sliding around on the face of the box. I think the rubbery consistency helps dampen feed back with the Piezo too. I save the JB Weld for repairing machinery in the shop.</p>
<p>I have used the silicon as if there is a future problem I can cut it out and replace a Piezo if necessary without having to make a new bridge. When I cover the back side I over fill the cavity and use a putty knife to level the surface off and it leaves a thin film on the oak that keeps the bridge from sliding around on the face of the box. I think the rubbery consistency helps dampen feed back with the Piezo too. I save the JB Weld for repairing machinery in the shop.</p> Thanks Thomas. It lookes like…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2013-04-25:2592684:Comment:15395632013-04-25T17:09:56.489ZJack Nollerhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JackNoller
<p>Thanks Thomas. It lookes like I left my comment for you in the wrong location. Kinda new to actually communicating on this web site. I mostly browse. But it is becoming more interesting to me because of all the CBG makers that want to share their secrets with anyone who adds a question.</p>
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<p>Thanks Thomas. It lookes like I left my comment for you in the wrong location. Kinda new to actually communicating on this web site. I mostly browse. But it is becoming more interesting to me because of all the CBG makers that want to share their secrets with anyone who adds a question.</p>
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<p>Jack </p> Thanks Thomas, I too hollow o…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2013-04-25:2592684:Comment:15398152013-04-25T16:58:52.544ZJack Nollerhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JackNoller
<p>Thanks Thomas, I too hollow out the bridge plate and place the piezos inside, but I have been using JB Weld epoxy to hold them in place, saw a groove and use a piece of fret wire instead of a bolt for the bridge and is held in place by the string tention. Sometimes i dress it up a little by screwing it down to the top of the box. Thanks again for you reply.</p>
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<p>Thanks Thomas, I too hollow out the bridge plate and place the piezos inside, but I have been using JB Weld epoxy to hold them in place, saw a groove and use a piece of fret wire instead of a bolt for the bridge and is held in place by the string tention. Sometimes i dress it up a little by screwing it down to the top of the box. Thanks again for you reply.</p>
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<p>Jack </p> Don't have any detail picture…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2013-04-25:2592684:Comment:15396982013-04-25T15:33:46.805ZThomas "Duck" Petryhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/ThomasPetry
<p>Don't have any detail pictures but i have had best results putting them in the bridge too. I use a piece of 1/4" thick oak under the threaded rod, make pockets in the back side with a Fostner bit for the Piezos and stick them in and then cover them with clear silicone adhesive. I don't stick the oak to the box, just let the strings hold it in place.…</p>
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<p>Don't have any detail pictures but i have had best results putting them in the bridge too. I use a piece of 1/4" thick oak under the threaded rod, make pockets in the back side with a Fostner bit for the Piezos and stick them in and then cover them with clear silicone adhesive. I don't stick the oak to the box, just let the strings hold it in place.</p>
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