Piezo disc installation - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T23:19:16Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/piezo-disc-installation?feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi, I just referred you to th…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2023-04-21:2592684:Comment:37746412023-04-21T20:08:56.570ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi, I just referred you to their web site in order for you to get an answer to your question on placement really</p>
<p>JJB pickups I have mentioned before are used in expensive cbgs, and are a cheaper expensive unit.</p>
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<p>Hi, I just referred you to their web site in order for you to get an answer to your question on placement really</p>
<p>JJB pickups I have mentioned before are used in expensive cbgs, and are a cheaper expensive unit.</p>
<p>Taff</p>
<p>HTML for reply’s…</p> Even if you only play with an…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2023-04-21:2592684:Comment:37747882023-04-21T13:53:32.369Zt-belly johnsonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/tbellyjohnson
<p>Even if you only play with an amplifier 00.1% of the time I`m sure you want it to sound good!<br></br> I learned years ago that no matter how you place them, disc piezos are really poor and feedback can never be rid of completely.<br></br> I do use under saddle rod piezos which tend to be far better but, to be honest, you are better using an EQ and rod piezo set up.<br></br> Yes, you have to pay more but you can find Chinese made EQ/ rod piezos that are decent for just a few pounds/dollars/euros on…</p>
<p>Even if you only play with an amplifier 00.1% of the time I`m sure you want it to sound good!<br/> I learned years ago that no matter how you place them, disc piezos are really poor and feedback can never be rid of completely.<br/> I do use under saddle rod piezos which tend to be far better but, to be honest, you are better using an EQ and rod piezo set up.<br/>
Yes, you have to pay more but you can find Chinese made EQ/ rod piezos that are decent for just a few pounds/dollars/euros on Ebay.<br/>
You can also find soundhole pickups if you don`t want a permanent solution but decent ones will cost more.</p> Looking at the K&K prices…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2023-04-21:2592684:Comment:37744842023-04-21T10:39:34.070ZEngblomhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Engblom
<p>Looking at the K&K prices, they are definitely over my price range regardless if it is about a CBG or a normal acoustic guitar.</p>
<p>I am looking for a pickup that I could use just in case I would ever end up needing to plug in. 99.9% of cases I would never use a pickup as most of the time I am playing at home for own fun.</p>
<p>Looking at the K&K prices, they are definitely over my price range regardless if it is about a CBG or a normal acoustic guitar.</p>
<p>I am looking for a pickup that I could use just in case I would ever end up needing to plug in. 99.9% of cases I would never use a pickup as most of the time I am playing at home for own fun.</p> I would suggest you visit the…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2023-04-21:2592684:Comment:37746882023-04-21T08:41:26.468ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>I would suggest you visit the K&K web sight for good info. Their instructions for fitting are a good guide. <br/>I use these systems in the acoustic guitars I build, and I see they are the choice of many players. They do produce a better amplified acoustic sound and do not give the “quacky” sound that is associated with cheap discs.</p>
<p>They are a bit of an overkill for a cbg though. <br/>Taff.</p>
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<p>I would suggest you visit the K&K web sight for good info. Their instructions for fitting are a good guide. <br/>I use these systems in the acoustic guitars I build, and I see they are the choice of many players. They do produce a better amplified acoustic sound and do not give the “quacky” sound that is associated with cheap discs.</p>
<p>They are a bit of an overkill for a cbg though. <br/>Taff.</p>
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<p></p> This is definitely an option!…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2023-04-21:2592684:Comment:37746372023-04-21T07:45:23.596ZEngblomhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Engblom
<p>This is definitely an option! Thank you!</p>
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<p>This is definitely an option! Thank you!</p>
<p></p> For acoustic guitars, I think…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2023-04-21:2592684:Comment:37746362023-04-21T06:13:48.924ZBrianQ.https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BrianQ
<p>For acoustic guitars, I think the internal microphone style is the best, they come with a built-in preamp in the end-pin jack? And they capture the acoustics of the guitar based off the sound that’s actually coming out of the whole guitar instead of the vibrations of a single contact point? Soundhole pickups are great too? A disc piezo will make your acoustic sound like it’s coming out of a tin can, especially if the quality is low & the impedance of the piezo is super high? …<br></br></p>
<p>For acoustic guitars, I think the internal microphone style is the best, they come with a built-in preamp in the end-pin jack? And they capture the acoustics of the guitar based off the sound that’s actually coming out of the whole guitar instead of the vibrations of a single contact point? Soundhole pickups are great too? A disc piezo will make your acoustic sound like it’s coming out of a tin can, especially if the quality is low & the impedance of the piezo is super high? <br/> <a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/11030895884?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/11030895884?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="300" class="align-full"/></a><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/11030896077?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/11030896077?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="300" class="align-full"/></a></p> Thank you, I have looked at t…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2023-04-21:2592684:Comment:37744822023-04-21T05:40:38.116ZEngblomhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Engblom
<p>Thank you, I have looked at this guide.</p>
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<p>Thank you, I have looked at this guide.</p>
<p></p> Thank you for your response.…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2023-04-21:2592684:Comment:37746322023-04-21T05:39:36.342ZEngblomhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Engblom
<p>Thank you for your response. I am considering to add a piezo disc to both my acoustic guitar and my future CBG. It is exactly because of what you wrote, that a top that is dampened by anything would be less responsive, that I am looking for another method of installing the piezo disc.</p>
<p>If I add a piezo disc to my current acoustic guitar, would it be OK to glue it directly under the bridge? I mean, that is the most stiff section with 3 layers of wood. Or would it be better to glue it…</p>
<p>Thank you for your response. I am considering to add a piezo disc to both my acoustic guitar and my future CBG. It is exactly because of what you wrote, that a top that is dampened by anything would be less responsive, that I am looking for another method of installing the piezo disc.</p>
<p>If I add a piezo disc to my current acoustic guitar, would it be OK to glue it directly under the bridge? I mean, that is the most stiff section with 3 layers of wood. Or would it be better to glue it somewhere where there is just the soundboard?</p>
<p></p> Hi, Piezo pickups work [a sim…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2023-04-20:2592684:Comment:37746192023-04-20T20:21:13.149ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi, Piezo pickups work [a simple explanation] by reacting to vibration and converting it into electrical energy. The better the vibrating source the better the response from the pickup. Dense timber vibrates less responsively than thinner timber.</p>
<p>So placing the pickup on a thin top is what guitar pickups are designed for, as it's the best sound producer. Also important is the quality of the piezo and its positioning.</p>
<p>Piezo works when experiencing pressure, this pressure is…</p>
<p>Hi, Piezo pickups work [a simple explanation] by reacting to vibration and converting it into electrical energy. The better the vibrating source the better the response from the pickup. Dense timber vibrates less responsively than thinner timber.</p>
<p>So placing the pickup on a thin top is what guitar pickups are designed for, as it's the best sound producer. Also important is the quality of the piezo and its positioning.</p>
<p>Piezo works when experiencing pressure, this pressure is exerted by the vibrations of the source/top, or whatever.</p>
<p>Disc piezo picks up the sound produced by the vibrating top, whereas USP or under-saddle pickups sense the vibrations of the strings. The sounds produced are slightly different.</p>
<p>In my experience, a top that is dampened by anything, like a neck stick, would be less responsive.<br/> Bit wordy hope it makes sense<br/> Taff<br/>
use HTML for comments...</p> Piezos are all about vibratio…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2023-04-20:2592684:Comment:37746162023-04-20T19:59:16.636ZBrianQ.https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BrianQ
<p>Piezos are all about vibration, so the more you can get the better? One of the most common placement for disc piezos is under the soundboard a little away from the bass end of the bridge, or sometimes on both sides of the bridge in either series or parallel? There is a fair amount of piezo info at cigarboxguitar.com, one would benefit from it if they were trying to learn about piezos? …</p>
<p>Piezos are all about vibration, so the more you can get the better? One of the most common placement for disc piezos is under the soundboard a little away from the bass end of the bridge, or sometimes on both sides of the bridge in either series or parallel? There is a fair amount of piezo info at cigarboxguitar.com, one would benefit from it if they were trying to learn about piezos? <a href="https://www.cigarboxguitar.com/knowledge-base/using-piezos-in-cigar-box-guitars-part-2-placement-mounting/" target="_blank">https://www.cigarboxguitar.com/knowledge-base/using-piezos-in-cigar-box-guitars-part-2-placement-mounting/</a></p>