Part 5 - Necks - Scarf Joints - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T14:04:01Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/part-5-necks-scarf-joints?groupUrl=smokehouseguitars&commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A183357&xg_source=msg_com_forum&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLooks kinda weird though, no?…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-02-23:2592684:Comment:4585652011-02-23T19:27:10.971ZJosh Gayou (SmokehouseGuitars)https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JoshGayou
Looks kinda weird though, no?<br></br>
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<cite>Wichita Sam said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/part-5-necks-scarf-joints?groupUrl=smokehouseguitars&commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A458276&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#2592684Comment458276"><div><p>so... if you like fenders and angled headstock, why don't you scarf a neck and then cutout a tele headstock profile... I've done it a couple times... one word..."NO STRING TREES".....</p>
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Looks kinda weird though, no?<br/>
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<cite>Wichita Sam said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/part-5-necks-scarf-joints?groupUrl=smokehouseguitars&commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A458276&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#2592684Comment458276"><div><p>so... if you like fenders and angled headstock, why don't you scarf a neck and then cutout a tele headstock profile... I've done it a couple times... one word..."NO STRING TREES".....</p>
<p>the best,</p>
<p>WS<br/><br/><cite>markholt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div>i dont haVE A PROBLEM WITH FENDER I ACTUALLY LOVE THEM BUT I DO LIKE THE ANGLED HEAD SO THANX AND JUST SOO YOU KNOW I THINK I'LL BE USING FENDER PUPS IN MINE HEHEHE</div>
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</blockquote> so... if you like fenders and…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-02-23:2592684:Comment:4582762011-02-23T18:51:26.165ZWichita Samhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/WichitaSam
<p>so... if you like fenders and angled headstock, why don't you scarf a neck and then cutout a tele headstock profile... I've done it a couple times... one word..."NO STRING TREES".....</p>
<p>the best,</p>
<p>WS<br/><br/><cite>markholt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div>i dont haVE A PROBLEM WITH FENDER I ACTUALLY LOVE THEM BUT I DO LIKE THE ANGLED HEAD SO THANX AND JUST SOO YOU KNOW I THINK I'LL BE USING FENDER PUPS IN MINE HEHEHE</div>
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<p>so... if you like fenders and angled headstock, why don't you scarf a neck and then cutout a tele headstock profile... I've done it a couple times... one word..."NO STRING TREES".....</p>
<p>the best,</p>
<p>WS<br/><br/><cite>markholt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div>i dont haVE A PROBLEM WITH FENDER I ACTUALLY LOVE THEM BUT I DO LIKE THE ANGLED HEAD SO THANX AND JUST SOO YOU KNOW I THINK I'LL BE USING FENDER PUPS IN MINE HEHEHE</div>
</blockquote> Cheers, Steve.tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-02-23:2592684:Comment:4584212011-02-23T15:59:39.471ZJosh Gayou (SmokehouseGuitars)https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JoshGayou
Cheers, Steve.
Cheers, Steve. This is the most informative…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-02-23:2592684:Comment:4580402011-02-23T07:46:08.992ZSlowpaw Steve Thttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/SteveTrowbridge
<p>This is the most informative guide i have found on CBG building techniques, also found the fret mounting tips and materials guide very useful, thanks to Josh for making it freely available!</p>
<p>There is very little information out there on CBG's, most Blues guides list Strats, Teles and LP's as the best Blues guitars, though it seems the traditional Blues sound really comes alive on 1, 2, 3 and 4 stringed instruments !</p>
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<p>This is the most informative guide i have found on CBG building techniques, also found the fret mounting tips and materials guide very useful, thanks to Josh for making it freely available!</p>
<p>There is very little information out there on CBG's, most Blues guides list Strats, Teles and LP's as the best Blues guitars, though it seems the traditional Blues sound really comes alive on 1, 2, 3 and 4 stringed instruments !</p>
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<p>.</p> i dont haVE A PROBLEM WITH FE…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-11-17:2592684:Comment:3630372010-11-17T19:47:49.010Zledbellyhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/markholt
i dont haVE A PROBLEM WITH FENDER I ACTUALLY LOVE THEM BUT I DO LIKE THE ANGLED HEAD SO THANX AND JUST SOO YOU KNOW I THINK I'LL BE USING FENDER PUPS IN MINE HEHEHE
i dont haVE A PROBLEM WITH FENDER I ACTUALLY LOVE THEM BUT I DO LIKE THE ANGLED HEAD SO THANX AND JUST SOO YOU KNOW I THINK I'LL BE USING FENDER PUPS IN MINE HEHEHE The glue is there to joint th…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-09-07:2592684:Comment:2973812010-09-07T22:23:09.416ZJosh Gayou (SmokehouseGuitars)https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JoshGayou
The glue is there to joint the wood together, not act as a gap filler :)<br />
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There are several reasons to this:<br />
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1. Leaving the surfaces jagged creates a lot more gaps than you want, no matter what anyone tells you. This is a huge structural liability and is likely to lead to joint failure. Also, yellow glue, even when it sets up completely, is softer than wood. If you have a tone of that spackled into your joint, it will suck up all the vibrational energy and kill your sustain.<br />
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2. The surfaces…
The glue is there to joint the wood together, not act as a gap filler :)<br />
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There are several reasons to this:<br />
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1. Leaving the surfaces jagged creates a lot more gaps than you want, no matter what anyone tells you. This is a huge structural liability and is likely to lead to joint failure. Also, yellow glue, even when it sets up completely, is softer than wood. If you have a tone of that spackled into your joint, it will suck up all the vibrational energy and kill your sustain.<br />
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2. The surfaces have to be flat in order to have an invisible glue line. If you don't get them flat you'll have a thick, ugly glue line that'll stick out like a sore thumb.<br />
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<cite>Michael L. Castle said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/part-5-necks-scarf-joints?groupUrl=smokehouseguitars&commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A297375&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2592684Comment297375"><div>Josh,<br/> Dumb question, but.....Why is it necessary to completely flatten the cuts before gluing a scarf joint? It seems like I saw somewhere where someone said something to the effect that if you leave 'em rough, the glue will "fill 'em in"<br/>
Is this due to the nature of "aliphatic resin glue", or is this true in general? ( Actually, I guess one has only to read the label, where it says "must fit tightly" )<br/>
T.I.A.!<br/>
Michael</div>
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Dumb question, but.....…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-09-07:2592684:Comment:2973752010-09-07T21:59:35.756ZMichael L. Castlehttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/MichaelLCastle
Josh,<br />
Dumb question, but.....Why is it necessary to completely flatten the cuts before gluing a scarf joint? It seems like I saw somewhere where someone said something to the effect that if you leave 'em rough, the glue will "fill 'em in"<br />
Is this due to the nature of "aliphatic resin glue", or is this true in general? ( Actually, I guess one has only to read the label, where it says "must fit tightly" )<br />
T.I.A.!<br />
Michael
Josh,<br />
Dumb question, but.....Why is it necessary to completely flatten the cuts before gluing a scarf joint? It seems like I saw somewhere where someone said something to the effect that if you leave 'em rough, the glue will "fill 'em in"<br />
Is this due to the nature of "aliphatic resin glue", or is this true in general? ( Actually, I guess one has only to read the label, where it says "must fit tightly" )<br />
T.I.A.!<br />
Michael Simply Thank You..... And if…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-08-20:2592684:Comment:2849262010-08-20T07:10:56.331Zc baxterhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/cbaxter
Simply Thank You..... And if you have anything else as great as that. Please write again and add pictures they really help! No more plain necks on my CBGs.
Simply Thank You..... And if you have anything else as great as that. Please write again and add pictures they really help! No more plain necks on my CBGs. this is a great thing to read…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-07-11:2592684:Comment:2613302010-07-11T20:49:42.695Zchristian pearsonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/christianpearson
this is a great thing to read. and the pics are great.
this is a great thing to read. and the pics are great. so? are scarf joints stronger…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-04-07:2592684:Comment:2152912010-04-07T15:07:48.729ZJonathanhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JonathanLovin
so? are scarf joints stronger than if, say, i just cut the whole neck out of a laminated block. and i just cut the angle out.
so? are scarf joints stronger than if, say, i just cut the whole neck out of a laminated block. and i just cut the angle out.