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Permalink Reply by Slowpaw Steve T on December 28, 2011 at 10:02pm

BOSS RC-20XL - i bought myself one recently to use for filling in solos, haven't had much time with it but picked up the main recording/playback techniques very quickly indeed, the sound quality is very good too! (-:

 

 

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Permalink Reply by bemuzic on December 28, 2011 at 10:27pm

I'd second what Steve said. It's now been updated to the RC30 which I've just ordered...if I get on with it ok I might be selling the RC20. Also look up the Boss RC3, the Akai Headrush, and the  Digitech JamMan. Depends how much you have to spend and what functions you want really...

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Permalink Reply by Roosterman on December 28, 2011 at 11:55pm

It really depends on whether you want to record and save any of your work.

I have a Akai Headrush which is great fun, extremely easy to use and quite cheap. Great for on the hoof backing tracks so you can solo etc, BUT it doesnt have a memory slot, so when ya turn it off, you loose ya loops.

KT Tunstall uses one though and she seems to manage ok.....

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Permalink Reply by The Phrygian Kid on December 29, 2011 at 9:47am

I got the boomerang.. i think its the best one for performing with, but its got no long term memory, it loses everything when you turn it off.  That actually suits me, I like to build it all fresh, but some people might prefer the boss or the jamman cos they got a memory card slot and usb so you can add prepared loops and save your favourites.

the boomerang is awesome.  The jamman is very powerful but it has the typical digitech sound which im not a fan of.  The boss is great,  but some of its features you gotta bend over and use your hands, its not as powerful for performing as the boomerang imho

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Permalink Reply by Seaman Jay on December 29, 2011 at 1:30pm

BOSS RC20 XL, (or RC30, it's newer, has bigger loop memory and USB interface). If you want to do a bit more than constructing your loops "live" you'd have to spend some money for RC50/RC300 (easier selection of recorded loops etc.)

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Permalink Reply by neanderpaul on December 30, 2011 at 4:06pm

Good to hear that Boss stepped up their game with the RC-30. I ran a 1st Gen RC-20 (not the XL) for years. I actually still use it as my dedicated drum looper. It's been extremely trouble free. As in one plastic button failed. I replaced it easily. But it did not have a USB interface. It did store everything and did not lose anything unless you delete it. I always saved loops by simply recording onto my computer. I also have a digitech jam man. I have toured with both. The jamman has a memory card and plenty of loop time. Both of these are made of sturdy metal. I did have a problem with my first jam man. The stop button stopped being dependable. I picked up a used one for $150. It's been solid for years. It has a usb interface. You can upload your loops to the computer. You can build loops or even whole songs and put them onto the jam man. I never use that function as I like everything to be live and on the fly. But it is there. I haven't tried the RC-30 but I would bet it's sturdy like the RC-20 and better with the interface. THe big daddy in my mind is the RC-50. It is like 3 RC-20's synched.

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Permalink Reply by Seaman Jay on January 2, 2012 at 2:13am

Boss introduced the RC-3x series in March 2011, (3 months after I received my RC20XL). At first I was a little bit frustrated, but then I read some people complaining about the sound of the new devices (hisses, clicking noises etc.). And, OTOH, RC20 is just good enough for me. 

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Permalink Reply by neanderpaul on January 2, 2012 at 5:20am

That's VERY interesting. Both because the RC-20, RC-50, and even my Digitech Jamman are all SO clean and because the technology is old now. At least 10 years. Hmmm.

I get a thrill out of manipulating the "lesser", simpler pedals and making more "real song" sounding loops than most people do with the RC-50.

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Permalink Reply by Ice Bob on January 2, 2012 at 2:51pm

i have an oridgnal lexicon Jamman i giged with it for 5 years simple but it worked well. now the foot switch dont work im tempted to but a newer version. would love to hear your opinions on loopers i would be doing live on the fly looping

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Permalink Reply by neanderpaul on January 2, 2012 at 3:06pm

All of our opinions are above your post. :)

Ice Bob said:

i have an oridgnal lexicon Jamman i giged with it for 5 years simple but it worked well. now the foot switch dont work im tempted to but a newer version. would love to hear your opinions on loopers i would be doing live on the fly looping

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Permalink Reply by Ice Bob on January 2, 2012 at 3:18pm

thanks neanderpaul just hoping for maybe someone that has an Headrush Or a Low fi junky or one of the loopers that went unmentioned

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Permalink Reply by neanderpaul on January 2, 2012 at 3:20pm

Oh gotcha, my bad. :)

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