Heel shaping ideas and process - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T13:26:34Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/heel-shaping-ideas-and-process?groupUrl=intermediatebuildingtipsandtricksforum&feed=yes&xn_auth=nosometimes the best way to hid…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-04-20:2592684:Comment:22883362015-04-20T10:59:10.163ZThe Phrygian Kidhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JefLong
<p>sometimes the best way to hide a glue line...</p>
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<p>is to turn it into a feature.</p>
<p>drop a 20c scrap of veneer in there ;)</p>
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<p>a bit of matching fingerboard scrap works nice too...</p>
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<p>edit oh snap, you're all saying that lol</p>
<p>sometimes the best way to hide a glue line...</p>
<p></p>
<p>is to turn it into a feature.</p>
<p>drop a 20c scrap of veneer in there ;)</p>
<p></p>
<p>a bit of matching fingerboard scrap works nice too...</p>
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<p>edit oh snap, you're all saying that lol</p> You can also do a traditional…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-04-20:2592684:Comment:22882402015-04-20T09:57:13.920ZMichael Fred Johnsonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/MichaelFredJohnson
<p>You can also do a traditional style heel like these using rasp,files and sandpaper…<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306441765?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306441765?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></a> <a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306442534?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306442534?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></a></p>
<p>You can also do a traditional style heel like these using rasp,files and sandpaper<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306441765?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306441765?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"></a><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306442534?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306442534?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"></a></p> I just re read this - when yo…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-31:2592684:Comment:22720152015-03-31T07:17:41.402ZRichey Kayhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RickFenn
<p>I just re read this - when you say about cutting into the neck, well that's exactly what you need to do... by the time I have finished shaping a neck I have usually taken quite a bit of material off the original depth of the neck blank. Once I am happy with the shape of the heel and 'shoulders' and have rounded over the sides I use a spokeshave to take a little off the thickness of the neck before rounding everything over with a rasp.</p>
<p>I just re read this - when you say about cutting into the neck, well that's exactly what you need to do... by the time I have finished shaping a neck I have usually taken quite a bit of material off the original depth of the neck blank. Once I am happy with the shape of the heel and 'shoulders' and have rounded over the sides I use a spokeshave to take a little off the thickness of the neck before rounding everything over with a rasp.</p> thanks guys, Richey yup it lo…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-31:2592684:Comment:22719622015-03-31T04:24:28.714Z14 buck bass (aka antonio)https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/anthonydominguez
thanks guys, Richey yup it looks like we do ours the same way. i think my slope is just to steep for my taste , it definatly is personal prefrerance cause, like mentioned bailing wire and broomsticks work just fine. Scott thanks for the info , and Richey thanks for the pics too. Kudos to both you gents fine work on those heels .
thanks guys, Richey yup it looks like we do ours the same way. i think my slope is just to steep for my taste , it definatly is personal prefrerance cause, like mentioned bailing wire and broomsticks work just fine. Scott thanks for the info , and Richey thanks for the pics too. Kudos to both you gents fine work on those heels . Thanks Antonio, and nice work…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-31:2592684:Comment:22719442015-03-31T03:32:46.710ZScott Whttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/ScottW349
Thanks Antonio, and nice work Richey. Antonio, if want a different and more gradual transition from neck to heel, just take away more material on your next one. I draw and cut a pattern out of a cereal box cardboard that has the profile I want, then trace that on the SIDE of the heel, and I also make a pattern for the shape of the very bottom of the heel. I rough-cut material away to get a basic shape similar to the pattern lines, then a rasp and file away material to pattern lines. I use just…
Thanks Antonio, and nice work Richey. Antonio, if want a different and more gradual transition from neck to heel, just take away more material on your next one. I draw and cut a pattern out of a cereal box cardboard that has the profile I want, then trace that on the SIDE of the heel, and I also make a pattern for the shape of the very bottom of the heel. I rough-cut material away to get a basic shape similar to the pattern lines, then a rasp and file away material to pattern lines. I use just a few round and half-round files. If you do not have one, a 4-in-hand file is really useful and quite cheap, and you get 4 tools! Great photo story. Thanks fo…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-29:2592684:Comment:22706312015-03-29T15:25:13.197Zgary sheldonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/0d3jt6c98794o
<p>Great photo story. Thanks for that.</p>
<p>Great photo story. Thanks for that.</p> I've also done necks with an…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-29:2592684:Comment:22705002015-03-29T07:01:34.838ZRichey Kayhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RickFenn
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306438285?profile=original" target="_self"></a>I've also done necks with an offcut from the fretboard between the 2 pieces, like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306438285?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306438285?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"></a></p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306438285?profile=original" target="_self"></a>I've also done necks with an offcut from the fretboard between the 2 pieces, like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306438285?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306438285?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"></a></p> Ok, as promised, a couple of…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-29:2592684:Comment:22705942015-03-29T06:52:06.972ZRichey Kayhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RickFenn
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306436706?profile=original" target="_self"></a><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306437695?profile=original" target="_self"></a>Ok, as promised, a couple of pictures. Like I said it looks like we make our necks pretty much the same way. I glue 2 pieces from the same length of wood, reversing the grain, the use a mitre box to make a 45 degree cut where the heel will slope down towards the neck. This…</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306436706?profile=original" target="_self"></a><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306437695?profile=original" target="_self"></a>Ok, as promised, a couple of pictures. Like I said it looks like we make our necks pretty much the same way. I glue 2 pieces from the same length of wood, reversing the grain, the use a mitre box to make a 45 degree cut where the heel will slope down towards the neck. This isn't strictly necessary but as I use rasps to shape the heel it cuts down on time a bit. I then use a half round rasp to fully blend the 2 pieces together, so none of the original outer boundaries of the 2 pieces are visible, if that makes sense?</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306436706?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306436706?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"></a><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306437695?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306437695?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"></a>...like I said, I can see where the 2 pieces join by looking at the difference in grain pattern, but it doesn't bother me.</p>
<p></p> I'll post some pics of how I…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-28:2592684:Comment:22700532015-03-28T19:41:07.924ZRichey Kayhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RickFenn
I'll post some pics of how I do mine tomorrow morning...
I'll post some pics of how I do mine tomorrow morning... thanks for the replys guys ,…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-28:2592684:Comment:22701132015-03-28T19:21:07.445Z14 buck bass (aka antonio)https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/anthonydominguez
thanks for the replys guys , I still feel like the heel transition is too steep and dosent blend well with the neck, ?? maybwe its just me .
thanks for the replys guys , I still feel like the heel transition is too steep and dosent blend well with the neck, ?? maybwe its just me .