Discrimination and Cigar Box Guitars - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T09:18:19Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/discrimination-and-cigar-box?feed=yes&xn_auth=noin my experiance 90% of peopl…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-07-17:2592684:Comment:6702882011-07-17T21:18:32.953ZGrease Stainshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/GreaseStains
in my experiance 90% of people are blown away by the fact that they work (i was! hah) and love them. that 10% tneds to be your guitar-snobes. to them nothing under $1500 is worth looking at. Hah, these are also the same people that love the sound of my strat, till they realise it's a Squire. <br></br><br></br>these people also tend to miss or lack the idea that there is a value in doing somthing your self. like one guy told a buddy of mine, "they perfected building guitars a long time ago." i lent my…
in my experiance 90% of people are blown away by the fact that they work (i was! hah) and love them. that 10% tneds to be your guitar-snobes. to them nothing under $1500 is worth looking at. Hah, these are also the same people that love the sound of my strat, till they realise it's a Squire. <br/><br/>these people also tend to miss or lack the idea that there is a value in doing somthing your self. like one guy told a buddy of mine, "they perfected building guitars a long time ago." i lent my bud one of the can's. the guy liked it, was impressed by the sound i got, but admitted he still didn't understand why i'd want to do it. i guess it like Jesse James (the bike builder) said "If you have to ask, you just don't get it man." "Reloading" is exactly that.…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-07-16:2592684:Comment:6682322011-07-16T13:29:31.648ZRyan Rosehttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RyanRose
"Reloading" is exactly that. Clean the case, reprime it, add some powder and a new bullet, and it's ready to shoot again.<br />
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As far as discrimination, I haven't really seen much. There's a lady at work who wants one, for a wall decoration. She also wants it to be a four-string, because "you can't play anything on three strings." Huh? You just said you were going to hang it on the wall. I showed her a video of a three-string guitar, and was told that "he's not really playing a song; he's just…
"Reloading" is exactly that. Clean the case, reprime it, add some powder and a new bullet, and it's ready to shoot again.<br />
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As far as discrimination, I haven't really seen much. There's a lady at work who wants one, for a wall decoration. She also wants it to be a four-string, because "you can't play anything on three strings." Huh? You just said you were going to hang it on the wall. I showed her a video of a three-string guitar, and was told that "he's not really playing a song; he's just making chords." Uh, yeah, and when you put them in a certain order, like he's doing, that's called a song. I had the same problem when I mentioned one-string instruments. It wasn't until I played her "Amazing Grace" on the canjo that it clicked in her head that you could actually play music on something with less than four strings. And yet she still wants one for decoration. So she's still waiting. I went into the local shootin…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-07-16:2592684:Comment:6671552011-07-16T05:11:22.896ZDavid Tutterrow GutBucketGuitarshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/DavidTutterrow
<p>I went into the local shooting range this past weekend to see if they would give/sell me some bullet casings that I use on my builds. At first, they refused because they thought I was using them to "reload", whatever that means. I explained that I use them for my cigar box guitars and they agreed to let me take a few handfuls. They thought the guitars were like a ukelele or some sort of kids toy so I went and got one from the car (for just such an emergency) and brought it…</p>
<p>I went into the local shooting range this past weekend to see if they would give/sell me some bullet casings that I use on my builds. At first, they refused because they thought I was using them to "reload", whatever that means. I explained that I use them for my cigar box guitars and they agreed to let me take a few handfuls. They thought the guitars were like a ukelele or some sort of kids toy so I went and got one from the car (for just such an emergency) and brought it in.</p>
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<p>When I walked in with it, the lady of the husband/wife team said, "Oh, how cute." The husband looked it up and down with curiosity and obviously thought it was more of a craft show item than an instrument. He plucked the strings a few times and perked up a little. I asked him if he wanted to hear it plugged up. "It's electric?" he said. I went to get my micro cube and when I came back in, he and his wife were both taking pictures of it with their iPhones as a customer looked on.</p>
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<p>I plugged it up and played (badly) for about 30 seconds and he asked if it was for sale. I sold it to him right there. They also told me I could come in and get bullet shells any time I needed them.</p>
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<p>I guess my experience is: I don't think a whole lot of people really understand these CBGs...until they hear them and realize these are bona fide instruments (in the hands of someone other than myself). They think they're toy guitars or something, at least in my experiences anyway. My best friend bought one from me after seeing pictures of it and said he thought it would be neat to hang it on his wall. I played it for him (again, badly) and he was amazed. Now he's told a friend of his about them who plays in a band and wants me to bring one to his show so he can check it out. I haven't run across any true snobbery yet, but I'm sure it's out there as so many of you have attested to and I hope i don't. So far, in my short time doing this, it's been a lack of understanding.</p> FEA!!!tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-07-16:2592684:Comment:6670612011-07-16T01:27:00.119ZBad Finger (Eric)https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/ED379
FEA!!!
FEA!!! I just finished my CBG#2 and…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-07-15:2592684:Comment:6673272011-07-15T22:25:44.319ZBama Jelleyhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/LarryJelley
<p>I just finished my CBG#2 and took it around to a cigar shop and a couple of music shops that I have visited while in the building process. The response has been generally positive. In fact the things seems to attract a small crowd of people every time I take it somewhere which is funny, cause I can't play worth a damn. I mean, how entertaining can the first few bars of "wild thing" really be. This I why I always play a few seconds and then hand it off to whoever I am showing it…</p>
<p>I just finished my CBG#2 and took it around to a cigar shop and a couple of music shops that I have visited while in the building process. The response has been generally positive. In fact the things seems to attract a small crowd of people every time I take it somewhere which is funny, cause I can't play worth a damn. I mean, how entertaining can the first few bars of "wild thing" really be. This I why I always play a few seconds and then hand it off to whoever I am showing it too.</p>
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<p>I also stopped into a music shop this afternoon and showed it to one of the guys who worked there. This kid can't be more than 16 years old, but when I handed it to him, he made it come alive with some awesome blues licks. He loved it and took it around the store and showed several other people. They all seemed impressed.</p>
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<p>Thanks to threads like this, I will be ready when I run up against a guitar snob. They only mock what they don't understand.</p> I get great feedback when I'm…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-07-02:2592684:Comment:6414362011-07-02T19:26:20.880ZBruce MacMahonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BruceMacMahon
<p>I get great feedback when I'm showing off my CBG's. They reflect the frugal yankee mentality that's pretty pervasive up here in New Hampshire.</p>
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<p>Play free or die!</p>
<p>I get great feedback when I'm showing off my CBG's. They reflect the frugal yankee mentality that's pretty pervasive up here in New Hampshire.</p>
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<p>Play free or die!</p> @Wes - it could be "maturity"…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-07-02:2592684:Comment:6407962011-07-02T08:51:52.955ZSeaman Jayhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/SeamanJay
<p>@Wes - it could be "maturity" as well. One day you're just old enough to care more about the music and not the gear.</p>
<p>And now for something totally different (on a bit more positive note):</p>
<p>I have regular communication with an Open-G community, almost everybody there uses a 12-string guitar. It's 4 times more strings, but nobody laughts at me/my experiments. Anything goes - as long it brings you further. With only 3 strings you have to rethink a sh*tload of things about your…</p>
<p>@Wes - it could be "maturity" as well. One day you're just old enough to care more about the music and not the gear.</p>
<p>And now for something totally different (on a bit more positive note):</p>
<p>I have regular communication with an Open-G community, almost everybody there uses a 12-string guitar. It's 4 times more strings, but nobody laughts at me/my experiments. Anything goes - as long it brings you further. With only 3 strings you have to rethink a sh*tload of things about your playing and understanding of music. Actually (I hope it stays this way) my CBG experiment already improved a bit my bass playing (although I have to switch constantly between GDG, EADG, DGDGBD and ADGCEA tunings). I still suck, but a bit less... No strange look or "smart" remark can spoil me the fun.</p> I went to a jam and had broug…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-07-02:2592684:Comment:6405292011-07-02T04:32:53.384ZSkeesixhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Skeesix
<p>I went to a jam and had brought some three string pickups with me. They kind of looked at them and said, gee that's nice. And then someone said, why don't you wind a Strat or Tele pickup?</p>
<p>However, I haven't infiltrated this jam yet with one of my CBG's, so I wouldn't expect them to really know what I'm talking about or why I'm doing what I'm doing, until I bring one out and crank it up.</p>
<p>They don't really "get" North Mississippi style blues either. The one time I brought a one…</p>
<p>I went to a jam and had brought some three string pickups with me. They kind of looked at them and said, gee that's nice. And then someone said, why don't you wind a Strat or Tele pickup?</p>
<p>However, I haven't infiltrated this jam yet with one of my CBG's, so I wouldn't expect them to really know what I'm talking about or why I'm doing what I'm doing, until I bring one out and crank it up.</p>
<p>They don't really "get" North Mississippi style blues either. The one time I brought a one chord song out they pretty much killed it with boredom.</p>
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<p>As far as the guy who was drawing the line on CBG's for blues - that's just hilarious and shows how ignorant he is. I just got done reading this month's Blues Revue obit section. Out of like 8 obits, it mentioned that one guy started on a "one string" and the other guy started on four strings nailed to his porch and played with a bottle. Nuff said.</p> I have had a LOT of great rec…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-07-01:2592684:Comment:6397482011-07-01T20:14:12.318ZWes "I'm Baaaaack" Yateshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/WesYates
<p>I have had a LOT of great reception to the concept of CBGs. I sell more than play/busk and when I am at a fair or so, I have never hear any discouraging words -- even from talented musicians. Mind you, they do give great criticism on setup and build but nothing that would cause my bristles to be raised. All the Hippies and rednecks in and around the Carolinas think these things are the shi... well. you get it.</p>
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<p>When I play Purgatory Hill or Moreland & Arbuckle on the iPad,…</p>
<p>I have had a LOT of great reception to the concept of CBGs. I sell more than play/busk and when I am at a fair or so, I have never hear any discouraging words -- even from talented musicians. Mind you, they do give great criticism on setup and build but nothing that would cause my bristles to be raised. All the Hippies and rednecks in and around the Carolinas think these things are the shi... well. you get it.</p>
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<p>When I play Purgatory Hill or Moreland & Arbuckle on the iPad, they really are impressed. I visit (pardon me) Guitar Center for strings etc, and the counter guys always want me to bring mine in.</p>
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<p>Must be some sort of regional thing. I dunno. Dan's right: 'I think having less than 6 strings also throws them for a loop.' It does... until they get hold of one. I get a lot of questions on tuning and why 3/4 strings but to any serious musician, most all musical instruments have their own merit.</p>
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<p>-WY</p> tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2011-07-01:2592684:Comment:6397022011-07-01T17:58:11.054ZCigar Box Nationhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/MotherLeeds
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