Canjo tuning - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T10:01:37Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/canjo-tuning?groupUrl=class101&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Brian, thanks mate, I get…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-11-23:2592684:Comment:35778092020-11-23T22:40:56.727ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi Brian, thanks mate, I get a warning from my net provider on my PC and iPad that the site where the photo is, is unsafe. But I can see photos posted direct to this forum.</p>
<p>OK ,I see it all ....said the blind man.....just store what I said away for another time.</p>
<p>I would have thought that even if the string is too high you would still get a D note, at least a D plus however many cents, or D sharp - ish.</p>
<p>Hight over the first fret try 15 thousandths and at the twelfth fret…</p>
<p>Hi Brian, thanks mate, I get a warning from my net provider on my PC and iPad that the site where the photo is, is unsafe. But I can see photos posted direct to this forum.</p>
<p>OK ,I see it all ....said the blind man.....just store what I said away for another time.</p>
<p>I would have thought that even if the string is too high you would still get a D note, at least a D plus however many cents, or D sharp - ish.</p>
<p>Hight over the first fret try 15 thousandths and at the twelfth fret 2mm. That's acoustic guitar setting, ball park for fingering not slide.. </p>
<p>Taff</p> tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-11-23:2592684:Comment:35776772020-11-23T22:40:20.173ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
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<p></p> Taff, I’m able to click on th…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-11-23:2592684:Comment:35778082020-11-23T22:19:28.715ZBrianQ.https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BrianQ
<p>Taff, I’m able to click on the links using an iPhone & iPad, not sure what you’re using? However, here’s that pic, which is not a bolt, but looks a high for a canjo? I build my Canjo’s with a flat screw for a nut like gitty does, which poses this same problem of being sharp if it is adjusted too high off the neck? …<br></br> <a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8208762472?profile=original" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img class="align-full" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8208762472?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="600"></img></a></p>
<p>Taff, I’m able to click on the links using an iPhone & iPad, not sure what you’re using? However, here’s that pic, which is not a bolt, but looks a high for a canjo? I build my Canjo’s with a flat screw for a nut like gitty does, which poses this same problem of being sharp if it is adjusted too high off the neck? <br/> <a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8208762472?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8208762472?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="600" class="align-full"/></a></p> Hi, Sorry declan, i thought i…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-11-23:2592684:Comment:35777642020-11-23T21:57:34.877ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi, Sorry declan, i thought it hard to understand.</p>
<p>Let me try this. At the start of the fingerboard [peghead] the nut would sit flush to that end of the board [the start of the scale length]. Call this the leaving point for the string from the nut].</p>
<p>Now if you place a <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>round</strong></span> bolt in that same position as a <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>square</strong></span> faced nut, the string contact {the…</p>
<p>Hi, Sorry declan, i thought it hard to understand.</p>
<p>Let me try this. At the start of the fingerboard [peghead] the nut would sit flush to that end of the board [the start of the scale length]. Call this the leaving point for the string from the nut].</p>
<p>Now if you place a <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>round</strong></span> bolt in that same position as a <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>square</strong></span> faced nut, the string contact {the leaving point of the string] is in the middle of the bolt , which would be back from the start of the fingerboard.</p>
<p>Taff</p> Thanks All,
I'll have a look…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-11-23:2592684:Comment:35776392020-11-23T16:24:50.102Zdeclan foleyhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/declanfoley
<p>Thanks All,</p>
<p>I'll have a look again tonight.<br></br> Based on your input I guess the string is too high ..<br></br> is there a recommended height over the frets ? 3 mm ?</p>
<p>I will have o punch a new hole in the can too as the 'bridge' position is definitely too high</p>
<p>I'm still not 100% clear on the advice Taff :<br></br> "if you did use a round bolt and you did not shorten the distance from the first fret to the end of the fingerboard, the scale length would be wrong. The distance from…</p>
<p>Thanks All,</p>
<p>I'll have a look again tonight.<br/> Based on your input I guess the string is too high ..<br/> is there a recommended height over the frets ? 3 mm ?</p>
<p>I will have o punch a new hole in the can too as the 'bridge' position is definitely too high</p>
<p>I'm still not 100% clear on the advice Taff :<br/> "if you did use a round bolt and you did not shorten the distance from the first fret to the end of the fingerboard, the scale length would be wrong. The distance from the end of the fingerboard to the centre of the bolt [string contact point] could be the difference causing the problem."</p>
<p>thanks</p> Hi, as I mentioned I cant see…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-11-23:2592684:Comment:35773712020-11-23T06:05:45.721ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi, as I mentioned I cant see the photo, but, if you did use a round bolt and you did not shorten the distance from the first fret to the end of the fingerboard, the scale length would be wrong. The distance from the end of the fingerboard to the centre of the bolt [string contact point] <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">could</span></strong> be the difference causing the problem.</p>
<p>But I'm fishing in the dark here as I have no photo, just a row of…</p>
<p>Hi, as I mentioned I cant see the photo, but, if you did use a round bolt and you did not shorten the distance from the first fret to the end of the fingerboard, the scale length would be wrong. The distance from the end of the fingerboard to the centre of the bolt [string contact point] <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">could</span></strong> be the difference causing the problem.</p>
<p>But I'm fishing in the dark here as I have no photo, just a row of numbers.</p>
<p>Taff</p> so, the screw eye is the nut?…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-11-23:2592684:Comment:35775292020-11-23T02:23:01.271ZBrianQ.https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BrianQ
<p>so, the screw eye is the nut? Then, yes, if your 1st note is sharp, then the string is sitting too high at the nut? About level frets, if you don’t want buzzing & sharp notes, then you’ll want to level them?</p>
<p>so, the screw eye is the nut? Then, yes, if your 1st note is sharp, then the string is sitting too high at the nut? About level frets, if you don’t want buzzing & sharp notes, then you’ll want to level them?</p> Start by confirming that your…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-11-23:2592684:Comment:35773652020-11-23T01:19:34.211ZMadGomerhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/MadGomer
Start by confirming that your scale length is correct for the fret spacing you used. Measure from the point of contact between the string and "nut" and the point of contact with the bridge. If that's what you intended, then start checking your fret dimensions. If all of that is correct, and your string is truly at C when open, you're probably looking at too high of an action and pulling the pitch sharp as you push it down on the first fret.
Start by confirming that your scale length is correct for the fret spacing you used. Measure from the point of contact between the string and "nut" and the point of contact with the bridge. If that's what you intended, then start checking your fret dimensions. If all of that is correct, and your string is truly at C when open, you're probably looking at too high of an action and pulling the pitch sharp as you push it down on the first fret. Thank's Taff, Brian ..
You me…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-11-23:2592684:Comment:35773612020-11-23T00:25:40.102Zdeclan foleyhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/declanfoley
<p>Thank's Taff, Brian ..</p>
<p>You mean the nut is physically too high off the neck ?</p>
<p>thanks for your help , photo of nut and first fret attached</p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8205568877?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener">20201123_002107.jpg</a></p>
<p>Thank's Taff, Brian ..</p>
<p>You mean the nut is physically too high off the neck ?</p>
<p>thanks for your help , photo of nut and first fret attached</p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8205568877?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener">20201123_002107.jpg</a></p> Hi I cant bring up the photo,…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-11-22:2592684:Comment:35772792020-11-22T23:26:56.605ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi I cant bring up the photo, is your nut in the correct position? Does the string leave the nut from the correct position? Are the notes true at the twelfth fret? </p>
<p>Taff.</p>
<p>Hi I cant bring up the photo, is your nut in the correct position? Does the string leave the nut from the correct position? Are the notes true at the twelfth fret? </p>
<p>Taff.</p>