A relatively easy, winding-free way to make a pickup. - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T09:17:52Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/a-relatively-easy-windingfree?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A267015&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWhat kind of magnets do you u…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2014-04-24:2592684:Comment:19738312014-04-24T14:02:55.938ZThe Phrygian Kidhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JefLong
What kind of magnets do you use?<br></br>
- you can just snap different ones on and see for yourself :)<br></br>
- when I've done this I've just snapped on one of the weird shaped ones you get from busting open a dead harddrive<br></br>
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Should one use (a pot) of higher value to get more sparkle?<br></br>
- yes, but take care to put a treb bypass cap across volume controls, otherwise pots of higher value (1meg +) can cut back the highs dramatically as you roll the volume off.<br></br>
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What kind of magnets do you use?<br/>
- you can just snap different ones on and see for yourself :)<br/>
- when I've done this I've just snapped on one of the weird shaped ones you get from busting open a dead harddrive<br/>
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Should one use (a pot) of higher value to get more sparkle?<br/>
- yes, but take care to put a treb bypass cap across volume controls, otherwise pots of higher value (1meg +) can cut back the highs dramatically as you roll the volume off.<br/>
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Is it like a humbucker if you use both coils?<br/>
- not really, because the primary and secondary coils will be considerably different from each other. You might be able to achieve some degree of noise cancellation but I expect it'd be difficult to stick a second magnet out of phase on that smaller coil.<br/>
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Can you silence a single coil by slapping a second magnet on the bottom?<br/>
- no the magnet will just jump off. what you'd need is a second (dummy) coil, wired out of phase and tucked away inside somewhere. This is how most 'noiseless' singles work. I have so many questions abou…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2014-04-24:2592684:Comment:19740982014-04-24T13:22:22.899ZPaulmusic37https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/07n7e9nmbz2fc
<div class="description" id="desc_2592684Comment1961601"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I have so many questions about this. What kind of magnets do you use? I guess you should get really strong ones but can you use one big bar magnet, or do you have to use a bunch of little ones? What kind of pots do you use? Technically these are single coil pickups but they sound pretty dark. Should one use a higher value to let some of the higher end in? Also, if you keep both coils together it seems a…</p>
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<div class="description" id="desc_2592684Comment1961601"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I have so many questions about this. What kind of magnets do you use? I guess you should get really strong ones but can you use one big bar magnet, or do you have to use a bunch of little ones? What kind of pots do you use? Technically these are single coil pickups but they sound pretty dark. Should one use a higher value to let some of the higher end in? Also, if you keep both coils together it seems a tick away from a humbucker. Has anyone tried to put some magnets on the bottom and wire them to some slug metal near the top? I'm not really clear about how humbuckers work but I think it's 2 coils with opposite direction and magnets with reversed polarity wired together. Speaking of humbuckers, I once heard that you can remove the slug screws from a standard humbucker and get a single coil sound with no hum. Can you just stick a magnet behind a single coil to remove the hum? If anyone can take on all these questions I'd have a whole lot of respect for your knowledge. Thanks.</p>
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</div> Yep.....that's me....that is…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-07-26:2592684:Comment:2690042010-07-26T10:07:37.004ZJerryrig240https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Sam
Yep.....that's me....that is the type of pickup I have in my main LPG I use on "My Last Ride" and other vids. I also have a transducer tied into that pickup for a added lo-fi sound.<br />
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<cite>Isaac said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/a-relatively-easy-windingfree?id=2592684%3ATopic%3A266588&page=2#2592684Comment268523"><div><cite>Rev. Nix said:…</cite></div>
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Yep.....that's me....that is the type of pickup I have in my main LPG I use on "My Last Ride" and other vids. I also have a transducer tied into that pickup for a added lo-fi sound.<br />
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<cite>Isaac said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/a-relatively-easy-windingfree?id=2592684%3ATopic%3A266588&page=2#2592684Comment268523"><div><cite>Rev. Nix said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/a-relatively-easy-windingfree?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A268262&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2592684Comment268293"><div><br/>The video I first saw was by a guy calling himself "jerryrig240".<br/><br/><br/>Hes a member <a href="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Sam" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Sam</a></div>
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<br/>Hey! Thanks for that! I'd added him as a YouTube friend, so it's cool to see he's on here too!</div>
</blockquote> Rev. Nix said: The video I fi…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-07-25:2592684:Comment:2685232010-07-25T04:35:10.185ZIsaachttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Isaac
<cite>Rev. Nix said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/a-relatively-easy-windingfree?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A268262&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2592684Comment268293"><div><br></br> The video I first saw was by a guy calling himself "jerryrig240".<br></br> <br></br>
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Hey! Thanks for that! I'd added him…
<cite>Rev. Nix said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/a-relatively-easy-windingfree?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A268262&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2592684Comment268293"><div><br/> The video I first saw was by a guy calling himself "jerryrig240".<br/>
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Hey! Thanks for that! I'd added him as a YouTube friend, so it's cool to see he's on here too! Tracy Kennedy said:Is there a…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-07-25:2592684:Comment:2685222010-07-25T04:34:15.790ZIsaachttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Isaac
<cite>Tracy Kennedy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/a-relatively-easy-windingfree?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A268262&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2592684Comment268262"><div>Is there any reason you couldnt use the primary windings with the thicker wire as a pup? I assume since it has thicker wire, hence fewer turns that the finished pup wouldnt be near as loud or hot as the secondary coil winding would be. But could the primary winding work? What Im…</div>
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<cite>Tracy Kennedy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/a-relatively-easy-windingfree?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A268262&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2592684Comment268262"><div>Is there any reason you couldnt use the primary windings with the thicker wire as a pup? I assume since it has thicker wire, hence fewer turns that the finished pup wouldnt be near as loud or hot as the secondary coil winding would be. But could the primary winding work? What Im thinking is you could use the secondary for the hotter of the two and the primary together and switch between the two or mix em together.</div>
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I didn't even try to use the primary windings, so I don't know that they will be weak from direct experience. But I do know how many winds are in each side of a 12v transformer, and also how many windings are in a noremal magnetic coil pickup. The primary side does not have enough. I suppose you could connect them, but then the coil would be really big and bulky! If you experiment with this, I's like to hear about your results! The video I first saw was by…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-07-24:2592684:Comment:2682932010-07-24T21:38:08.260ZRev. Nixhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RevNix
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The video I first saw was by a guy calling himself "jerryrig240".<br />
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The video I first saw was by a guy calling himself "jerryrig240".<br />
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Hes a member <a href="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Sam" target="_blank">http://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Sam</a> Is there any reason you could…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-07-24:2592684:Comment:2682622010-07-24T20:01:20.851ZTracy Kennedyhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TracyKennedy
Is there any reason you couldnt use the primary windings with the thicker wire as a pup? I assume since it has thicker wire, hence fewer turns that the finished pup wouldnt be near as loud or hot as the secondary coil winding would be. But could the primary winding work? What Im thinking is you could use the secondary for the hotter of the two and the primary together and switch between the two or mix em together.
Is there any reason you couldnt use the primary windings with the thicker wire as a pup? I assume since it has thicker wire, hence fewer turns that the finished pup wouldnt be near as loud or hot as the secondary coil winding would be. But could the primary winding work? What Im thinking is you could use the secondary for the hotter of the two and the primary together and switch between the two or mix em together. Well I would imagine some fer…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-07-22:2592684:Comment:2670192010-07-22T02:57:13.878ZTracy Kennedyhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TracyKennedy
Well I would imagine some ferrous metal magnetize better than others, I reckon Ill have to experiment to see.
Well I would imagine some ferrous metal magnetize better than others, I reckon Ill have to experiment to see. Tracy Kennedy said:Good info.…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-07-22:2592684:Comment:2670152010-07-22T02:33:29.003ZIsaachttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Isaac
<cite>Tracy Kennedy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/a-relatively-easy-windingfree?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A266887&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2592684Comment266911"><div>Good info. Just curious though If you had the option to fill the interior of the coil with a ferrous metal that could be magnetized would that works as well as a ready made magnet? Reason I ask is cause Im a metal worker and have the ability to cut any ferrous metal to perfectly fill…</div>
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<cite>Tracy Kennedy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/a-relatively-easy-windingfree?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A266887&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2592684Comment266911"><div>Good info. Just curious though If you had the option to fill the interior of the coil with a ferrous metal that could be magnetized would that works as well as a ready made magnet? Reason I ask is cause Im a metal worker and have the ability to cut any ferrous metal to perfectly fill the inside and magnetize it with the Mag Partical Test equipment at work</div>
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I imagine that that would work quite well! There just has to be some magnetized material in the center of the coil for it to work. I tried a few types of magnets, and I found that the neodymium ones (which were the strongest ones I tried) worked the best. Good info. Just curious thoug…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2010-07-21:2592684:Comment:2669112010-07-21T22:55:26.921ZTracy Kennedyhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TracyKennedy
Good info. Just curious though If you had the option to fill the interior of the coil with a ferrous metal that could be magnetized would that works as well as a ready made magnet? Reason I ask is cause Im a metal worker and have the ability to cut any ferrous metal to perfectly fill the inside and magnetize it with the Mag Partical Test equipment at work
Good info. Just curious though If you had the option to fill the interior of the coil with a ferrous metal that could be magnetized would that works as well as a ready made magnet? Reason I ask is cause Im a metal worker and have the ability to cut any ferrous metal to perfectly fill the inside and magnetize it with the Mag Partical Test equipment at work