Hello Everyone,

I wanted to write a few words to talk honestly about the health and longevity of Cigar Box Nation. As usual, the post ended up being longer than I intended. So, here’s a summary:

  • We don’t know why there have been so many recent downtimes and issues with the site, and we haven’t been able to get any answers out of Ning (the platform CBN runs on).

  • We hope and trust that the company that owns the Ning system (Mode Media) will continue to operate it for years to come - but we have no guarantees.

  • Cigar Box Nation has become more than just the original site of CigarBoxNation.com, now with a strong presence on Facebook, live broadcasts and more.

  • While it may sometimes seem like more attention is being given to other platforms, CigarBoxNation.com remains the flagship and we are committed to its continued growth and role as the hub of the worldwide cigar box guitar movement.

If you want more details, here’s the long version:

When Shane Speal first founded CBN back at the end of 2008, MySpace was still fairly strong and Facebook still pretty new and small. At that time the Ning social platform (on which Cigar Box Nation runs) was as much an up-and-coming network as any of the others. It was a perfect place to found a new Cigar Box Guitar-focused social network, and in the years since it has served as the cradle of the Movement.

In the years since, Facebook has grown to mammoth proportions, Myspace has faded away, and the Ning platform hangs in a sort of limbo. Bought out by a larger company (Mode Media), its future has become uncertain and these days it has become nearly impossible to get any sort of answer out of them about what their plans are for the site.

Lately CigarBoxNation.com has had periods of downtime and errors, and while they eventually clear up, we have few ways of finding out (despite filing helpdesk tickets with Ning) what caused them, what is being done about them, etc. We hope for the best, but with all honesty we have no guarantee as to what the future holds for it. For now, aside from the bugginess and downtime, all systems seem to remain “go”, but it’s a scary thought that Mode Media could decide to kill off the Ning platform. I’d like to think that they wouldn’t just chuck a bunch of paying customers out the window, but who knows.

Now, some good news. Cigar Box Nation remains the online home and rallying point of the Cigar Box Guitar Revolution and homemade/handmade music movement - and we have been working hard  to expand Cigar Box Nation to be more than just the original CigarBoxNation.com site. We now have a strong presence on Facebook via the CBN page there, we are creating live video broadcasts as Cigar Box Nation TV (broadcast live on Facebook and then archived on Youtube and the CBN.com site), and more. We are doing everything we can to spread the word about cigar box guitars and other handmade/homemade instruments, and taking advantage of everything social media offers is a big part of that. All of this is being funded by C. B. Gitty, and the ads you see on Cigar Box Nation are a part of that.

We try to keep the original CigarBoxNation.com site involved in as much of this as possible, posting feature content and linking back to it from Facebook and elsewhere, featuring member videos and photos, group discussions and more. It may seem sometimes like we are ignoring the original site, but I assure you that is not the case. We are working hard to keep people coming back, and new users coming in. It all takes a lot of time and effort, and frankly, a good bit of money too, but it’s worth it.

So, that’s about it, for now. The CBG movement continues to grow and expand, and Cigar Box Nation will continue to be at the heart of it, no matter what.

Ben “Gitty” Baker

May 31, 2016

 

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It only takes one call or email to know you got the right number.........

Much more appreciation here than is often expressed.

I don't understand why getting a new host and a new website would kill anything.  There are tons of searches how to transfer from Ning to other sites like WordPress & BuddyPress so you can keep everything the way it is.   Sounds like you need a web designer/programmer.

If you migrated over you would have all the control you would every want but you'll need to probably hire a web person to keep it up.

This is a serious thread, please let's not let it devolve into a personal back-and-forth bicker-fest between two people.

"A startling announcement came today from the Ning network. Only one month after appointing a new CEO, the company has major reorganization plans in the works. In addition to laying off approximately 40% of its staff, the company is killing off all free accounts. Free account users will have the option to either change over to a premium membership, or move their network to another platform entirely."

"In his message to staff members, CEO Jason Rosenthal stated in part that “So, we are going to change our strategy to devote 100% of our resources to building the winning product to capture this big opportunity. We will judge ourselves by our ability to enable and power Premium Ning Networks at huge scale. And all of our product development capability will be devoted to making paying Network Creators extremely happy.”

Sounds like the money men have moved in at "Ning" as usual..!
seen it twice in my life big ideas destroy a load of stuff and nice people suffer for greed, that then doesn't then work and they end up making less as the top man was wrong.

But is sounds like "ning" are really suffering big time from hackers and stuff...

All we can do is give Ben our full support as he's a good man, who I'm sure will do his best to look after our little virtual community and the things we really love and all share together..
Thanks Buggy. Thanks Ben. Hope we live on. It may be virtual, but it's real to me. It's making me enjoy music all the more.

I don't know if this has anything to do with Ning... or just false postives via a couple anti-virus programs, but I've been getting these warning messages fairly regularly, lately.

It may be that you have the web address in there as "https://" which is the secure SSL protocol. We do not have an SSL certificate for this site, so trying to use the https:// will cause those errors.

Thank you. I didn't know that when I posted.

I know this isn't the only forum on Ning having problems. Your in with a lot of good company. Hope things get straightened up soon. I don't mind the down time. Or minor glitches. As long as I know this place is stull going to be here. All is cool. 

Well like wayfinder said ,probably be best to make copy's "just in case of a change in servers" ,hopefully nothing happens ,but again it wouldn't hurt for everyone to make copy's and what not ,just to be safe. Thanks for the update/news Ben.

I feel privileged to be a small part of the membership and I applauded the continuing efforts of all involved in the ongoing building & maintaining of this massive undertaking. KUDO's to all involved!

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