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Permalink Reply by robert jones on September 30, 2014 at 9:19am

I'm sorry you had a bad music teacher and your parents didn't understand enough to find you a more suitable one.

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Permalink Reply by robert jones on October 1, 2014 at 10:09am

Wasn't insulting your parents, sorry you took it that way.

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Permalink Reply by The Phrygian Kid on September 30, 2014 at 9:28am

in my opinion --  music is not just 'math that makes pretty sounds'

-- music is where science meets art.

-- like cooking or carving or welding or sculpture..  (etc)

so its...  magic...

of course there will be those (like you ) who claim to reject the science, who claim to them it is only the art.

but are they being truthful to themselves??

or do they, in their isolated ignorance, through a slow gradual process of trial and error, formulate their own version of the 'music theory' that they so desperately avoid.  Why ?? well,  while we're being honest lets call it what it is..  fear...

Please see the introduction to ch1 of my 'i see threes' blog.  You cannot reject music theory anymore than you can just casually reject the laws of physics.  Surely we don't all belong on the big bang theory.  But at the same time Im sure we'll all put our keys down on the kitchen table and expect that table to keep those keys off the floor.  Similarly if you suspend a guitar string between two points and tension it to a pitch you are employing music theory whether you recognise it as such or not.

The answer to the question is this, no there is no chart.  Except the scale.  The roman numerals indicate an index to the parent scale, where a note scale or chord is derived.   It'd be nice if people focused on the question eh, might not require four pages to answer it.  :)

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Permalink Reply by Ron "Oily" Sprague on September 30, 2014 at 2:28pm

Awwww, where's the fun in that? Then there'd be no confessional, no self-recognition, no debates between the more and less educated. No differences of opinion that illuminate the nooks and crannies between simplicity and complication, science and magic, head and heart, sole and soul. Nor even another plug for your excellent IC3s blog ;-) ( and no, I'm not winding you up; it is indeed most excellent and useful, and should be promoted as and when). Hmmm. I just noticed I'm speaking in dualisms. Or as Jimmy Page might say, light and shade...

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Permalink Reply by The Phrygian Kid on September 30, 2014 at 2:39pm

:D
Pagey'd probly say 'Cor fook me!' And steal it off Beck

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Permalink Reply by robert jones on September 30, 2014 at 11:28pm

There was a question? o_O

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Permalink Reply by Ron "Oily" Sprague on October 1, 2014 at 9:31am

Perhaps we have now reached the point in this thread to quote Frank Zappa: Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar! >:-E

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Permalink Reply by Patrick Curley on September 30, 2014 at 3:29pm

It's harder to teach than it is to learn, hence most people's bad experiences.

If you try and learn it without listening, as is happening here, then it's like maths. If you learn it by listening it's about music.

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Permalink Reply by Ron "Oily" Sprague on September 30, 2014 at 3:46pm

Yep. Music: where ears,fingers and brain collide. ;-)

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Permalink Reply by Cause the Blue rat on October 1, 2014 at 12:08pm

Scruggy my friend, you need to ask more questions! Your simple inquiry has brought out everything from help to absurdity. YOU HAVE THE NACK! : ) I really hope your able to make some progress.

Another classic blues progression is 1. 2, 4, Play this as open A Bm and D. The 5th cord would be the open E. Remember if the 1 cord is a major then the second cord will be minor. The fourth and fifth cords will be major. Knowing this you can play this in every key on the guitar. No matter which cord the progression starts on.

And speaking of absurdity. :+) I may not know everything about music theory. But not only did I help explain Scruggy's original question. I taught him two songs. And I helped explain cord progressions when trying to learn things by hearing them. I WIN! I'm the greatest! I'm the greatest answerer on the thread! Pick up your guitars and solute me! Then jam those two songs to your hearts content! Go and learn those Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Voughan cord progressions! Because I'm the greatest and I said so. : )

Who's your dady? I am
Who's your dady? I am
Who's your dady? I am

Now back to the show.

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Permalink Reply by Scruggy on October 1, 2014 at 1:28pm

You certainly are, all hail the rat we salute you!!!!

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Permalink Reply by robert jones on October 1, 2014 at 3:00pm

All bow before The Mighty Rat! Tremble in great and grievous dread at his magnificent roar!

(You do know this means I'll start directing everyone with a question to you right?)

"With great power comes great responsibility." Voltaire

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