Online Cigar Box Guitar Instruction - One man's journey...plus a review of www.learncigarboxguitar.com

This post is in response to the large number of discussions i've seen on where a beginner should learn to play cigar box guitar.

In my experience, there appear to be two types of players (a spectrum in any case).  The first type of musician or instrumentalist are those through whom the music naturally flows.  For some reason these people are born with an innate gift of music.  Instruction means little to this person as they play predominantly by ear and natural ability.  They have perfect (at least close to perfect) pitch and natural timing/syncopation.  Think..Willie Nelson!   For these people, its simply a matter of getting their hands on an instrument and playing.  

Then...there is the 2nd type of musician (Me and others).  <Switching to first person> I have absolutely no innate musical skill AT ALL.  I have no ear for pitch and have terrible "white boy" timing.  I also have no "musical creativity" and have tended to be a "monkey see, monkey do"-type player.   Think of me as Steve Martin's character at the beginning of The Jerk.  Not Steve Martin himself as he is obviously a Type 1.  BUT...I still love playing.

The problem is that there is a disproportionate number of people on this site that fall into the first category and many of the "instructional videos" for CBG that I have found here and online are taught by these folks.  Unfortunately, most people trying to learn here fall into the 2nd type or somewhere near that end of the spectrum.

I've managed to overcome my musical handicaps by putting in a crazy amount of time playing (mostly 6 strings until I built my first CBG a few months back).  I average about 2-3 hours of playing a day, often times more.  I work overnights (28 hours per week) as a physician in slow urgent care/ER and have a sleep room where I can pretty much just play and play.  There's no getting around it, you have to play a LOT to be good as a Type 2, but thankfully most of us here find the process as much fun as the product.   Also, if you are musically illiterate and don't have a band/drummer, play with a metronome.   I've listened to self-taught people who have spents years developing guitar skills, but never seem to sound quite right as they have never had to play in time with a drummer or band.

I had never played with a slide before and started with checking out some online videos, learned a few songs/riffs etc...mostly fretted instrument stuff, little solos...a lot of stuff that translated pretty easily from 6 string.  The problem I had with most of the purely slide lessons is they are taught by Type I's and completely ignore the fact that most of us don't have natural timing.  The lessons often end up with them playing something awesome, showing you where the slide goes and...thats about it.   Forget the right hand, should just come naturally I guess.

In short, if you fall into type 2 and you want to learn slide cigar box guitar, the website www.learncigarboxguitar.com is really the only viable option I have personally found.  If I had had this guy when I learned 6 strings, I would have spent a lot less time getting to my currently ability.  He approaches it as though you are a new student of music and focuses a LOT on the right hand.  You can get really good at sliding that slide around the different scales, but without timing and syncopation, lets face it, it just sounds terrible.  I actally picked up my 6 string for first time in a few weeks and as insane as this sounds, I actually played that much better than when I started this course like 3 weeks ago.

I love the Keni Lee Burgess CD's for 3 string as well, but a lot of this is for a fretted instrument with a little Type I teaching Type II.  The saving grace is that he puts a lot of tab in his videos which is great.  

I have noticed that www.learncigarboxguitar.com is strangely absent and rarely mentioned on this site, which I find strange as this is easily the best CBG instruction, naaay, musical instruction out there online.  Seems like these two sites would be a natural marriage.  Perhaps the price??  Still too new for word of mouth??  Bad blood?? My daughters classical guitar lessons are $30 per half hour so I'm not sure how anyone can complain about $47 for a complete course + another course.  This includes downloadable video, course notes, etc...the instructor if very responsive if you have a question and he appears to be setting up Skype as well. 

I'm about 3 weeks into and am putting together nice blues riffs/turnarounds, 12 bar blues etc...the process may be slower for someone who has never played guitar or an instrument, but the coursework takes you step-by-step through the process focusing on the right hand.  I can actually improvise and put together some nice little blues tunes already which is something I have never been able to do (as I mentioned above, I am the least musically creative person I know).  Its amazing how much different music you can play with 2 notes by simply instructing people on right hand picking, phrasing, syncopation, etc...the instructor Patrick Curley has seriously fed my already crazy music playing addiction. 

The website itself is very clean, organized and easy to look at.  Videos always play flawlessly and are very well done, good sound, picture and downloadable for playing offline.  Website load times are crazy fast because he gave the site a clean simple look, a rare treat in today's internet.   Lots of cool mp3 embeds for timing excercises and such.  Great notes with each lesson in pdf form if you like.

It should be noted that I rarely write reviews and have absolutely no affiliation with the site or the instructor.  It is simply rare that I have found music instruction on-line at this caliber.  Likely because most instructors with this background and experience are teaching at schools/universities.

If you are new to music, just spent a a bunch of time and/or money on your CBG and are wondering where to start playing slide guitar, spend the extra money and start here.  Easily the fastest way to learn CBG.

That said, of course, you should explore this site and the internet for instruction as well, especially if there is a specific song you want to learn.  I highly recommend Shane Speals stuff (another Type I) but some really cool sounding stuff that a beginner could try his/her hand at.  I found Shane Speals Star Spangled Banner on CBG to be a great beginner song to get you comfortable with the slide.  You already know the song/timing and only takes one string to play, but gets your slide all over the guitar.

 

Feel free to comment and provide insight/corrections, differing experiences, etc...always love discussion.

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Comment by Richey Kay on March 17, 2014 at 8:39pm

Great post BC. I've had a look at some of the snippets Patrick has uploaded and they seem great. I also like your type I/II analogy. I think I'm a type II, but I've been playing 15 years now so things are starting to come more naturally. When I first started, like you I was playing 4-6 hours a day...

I would fully recommend that any builders out there who do not play should make learning a priority - the more you understand what makes an instrument play well, the better they will be, ergo; the more fun you will have making them.

Also - you're a doctor and you only work 28 hours a week!? :)

Comment by Barsymes Cratchnee on March 17, 2014 at 5:07pm

Yeah, no worries.  Glad to hear there is no "bad blood" haha, was being more tongue in cheek that anything.  I will definitely continue to steer people towards your site for CBG instruction. 

Comment by Patrick Curley on March 17, 2014 at 4:36pm

Thankyou for the putting so much time into this Barsymes. I like your Type I/II analogy.

I should add that there is absolutely no bad blood between myself and anyone at the nation. I've posted plenty of my stuff here and have never had an issue.

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