We have a traitor in our midst...and it's me. I feel awful. I betrayed the whole movement and bought a factory made guitar. Worse still, I've been playing it almost exclusively for the past three days! The problem is that, in my opinion, it sounds better to my ears than anything I've been making of late so playing it is in some sense, certainly in the ears, more satisfying. It's a half-sized classical guitar from 1972 (that's what it says on the label but this could perhaps be just when the company was set up), fully acoustic and has the half steel and half nylon string set up, for those that want to know.
I digress. I came here to ask for advice. When we, any of us, buys a factory produced guitar and adapts it, how much adapting do we need to do to make it our own and give it a 'soul'?
I'm considering covering it in a box but keeping the body and the neck intact. Basically putting a cigar box guitar type coat on it. Is this cheating? I'm wondering WHY I want to give it a cigar box look when that's all I'm doing and I'm happy with the sound. I think it's purely aesthetic and making it look better than anything, or perhaps even just wanting it to look different to those factory made guitars to keep up with the image I see of myself. A reflection on what I want it to look like to fit in with what I perceive my current image to be?
So, when does a factory made guitar become a cigar box TYPE guitar? How much does it need to be adapted before we accept it as one of our own and welcome in our midst? I've used a factory made guitar neck on new boxes and thought of that as mine but I changed so much about it that the sound was totally different, along with everything else. I really like the sound of this one though so wouldn't want to loose that just for an image and an aesthetic change.
I'm in a quandary and seeking your help and advice. Any that you choose to give is hugely appreciated.
Tags:
Have you just sat back and wondered why this instrument sounds better? Is it the precision of the frets? Is it the size of the body producing deeper tones? Is it simply the scale length? Could it be that you now have 6 strings? Might it be a tapered neck, rounded neck, rounded fretboard?
If you figure out why you like it, you can then dismantle it with a hammer. I'm sure you will feel much better afterwards. Also, you will have all those wonderful left over bits to use.
I'm half joking. Hey if you like the sound it makes then keep it. I tend to like messing about on various instruments just to give my ears and fingers a fresh edge.
I especially like changing scale lengths and switching from amp electric to acoustic.
Next for me is string numbers. :)
Oh the shame of it!! LOL Many of us have treasured factory made instruments in our collection and I would definitely not tear apart my Telecaster to make a CBG. They're simply different instruments and that should be respected. On my collab with Vinnie I felt a bit off about using a factory flute but that was the sound I was hearing in my head so I went with it along with my cigar box fiddle. And if you look at Vinnies original vid of Last Train to Amity you can see that he uses a cool combination of factory and homemade instruments on his loops.Fomhorach gave good advice - try to analyze what it is that you like on that guitar and then incorporate it into future builds.
Well to answer the questions asked, I think I like the guitar I bought for a few reasons. It's small enough for me to hold comfortably and get my arms around even when I'm in pain. I love my last build but that box is huge to get your arm around and when my shoulder's hurting it's a total pain. Literally. Also, the thinness of the neck is sooo comfortable when playing. Another thing is the super-low action of the strings. So easy to get a clean note out of that even my pinky is able to do so! Then there's the whole hollow body thing with its deep tones. Just beautiful. I'm considering putting a piezo in it but, as you mentioned Wayfinder, I need to research it first and make sure it's not truly a 1972 build.
All in all, with the above things combined, I've learned a LOT about what I need in a build from this one purchase. It was a super low price of £30 and that makes it a steal simply because of what I've learned about what I like and/or need in future builds.
I think I'll likely keep it as is. If it's NOT a vintage guitar then I may adorn it with stickers and such so that it fits in with how I perceive my image to be. It'd be a lot easier than giving it a cigar box style coat and not as pointless as giving it said coat. We'll see but first comes the research.
Thanks all for the advice and helping me to question what it is that I love about it. It's definitely going to serve me well so thanks to those who mentioned that I should think on these things. Much appreciated.
Bear.
Oh, I should add, the make is a 'Valencia'. Not a big name but none the less a thing of beauty.
Valencia cg160 1/2 Wayfinder. I had a look and it's an entry level "quality" beginners and students half-sized guitar. They're selling them online for around the £50-£60 area so I guess my £30 cost was pretty good, though not an antique it would appear. Not to worry, I'm falling in love with the tone and simplicity of playing and didn't feel this way before I knew it was an el-cheapo so the el-cheapo won't affect how much I like it :)
Oh, this also means that the sticker brigade can go crazy with it luls. Thanks for the help.
We need a picture or it doesn't exist.
People would disguise a banjo? Stealth technology has gone too far!
A disguised banjo is a pig, or whatever animal it is that drum skins are made out of, doing a square dance with a stick?
It's definitely a guitar. It's guitar shaped, it looks like a guitar, sounds like a guitar and tastes like a guitar. Oh and it's brown which DEFINITELY means it's a guitar because nothing else in the WORLD is guitar coloured brown.
I'll post a video in a couple of days. Right now I'm getting over a shoulder injury and recovering from too much building. I'm HOPING that I'll have my greatest build to date ready to show in the next week to ten days. For one who professes to be allergic to hard work I've been breaking my mantra with this one.
I'm quickly learning that I need a bandsaw too! I've seen one on the local flea market for around £60 (or at least I THINK he said £60) but it's going to have to wait until another pay day when I can spare the cash. I just hope that he doesn't sell it to one of the uncivilised lot that'd probably use it for something other than guitar making. Silly people. Don't they know that guitar making is where wood work should start and stop?!
Simple solution.
1) Do you like it?
2) Does it sound good and make you happy?
3) If the answer to those two questions is yes there is no need to go any farther.
Keep it, enjoy it and be happy.
meh . they are call cbg mods . totally acceptable .
gibson mod
national mod
framus mod
etc etc etc
heh heh heh ;-}
then again . if it aint broke or half broke ,, dont fix it . ;-)
or do ... ;-)
Started by Justin Stanchfield. Last reply by Taffy Evans Mar 20. 9 Replies 2 Likes
Started by BrianQ.. Last reply by MadGomer Feb 27. 2 Replies 4 Likes
Started by Ian Boyd. Last reply by Ian Boyd Dec 11, 2023. 1 Reply 0 Likes
Started by Michael Myers. Last reply by Michael Myers Apr 20, 2023. 8 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Brenda. Last reply by MadGomer Dec 3, 2022. 5 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Wichita Sam. Last reply by Taffy Evans Nov 14, 2022. 21 Replies 1 Like
Started by Michael Myers. Last reply by Taffy Evans Nov 3, 2022. 4 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Robert Killen. Last reply by Paul Craig Oct 14, 2022. 23 Replies 2 Likes
Started by Larry Sobol. Last reply by Larry Sobol Oct 1, 2022. 6 Replies 2 Likes
Started by jon neet. Last reply by Taffy Evans Aug 16, 2022. 6 Replies 1 Like
Started by Doug Laffin. Last reply by Order99 Aug 11, 2022. 4 Replies 1 Like
Started by Paul Craig. Last reply by Paul Craig Jul 17, 2022. 14 Replies 1 Like
Started by Roy Smith. Last reply by the anonymous pick May 15, 2022. 2 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Al Lobe. Last reply by BrianQ. May 10, 2022. 18 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Michael Myers. Last reply by Taffy Evans May 6, 2022. 5 Replies 1 Like
Started by Michael Myers. Last reply by Michael Myers May 2, 2022. 5 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Wichita Sam. Last reply by MadGomer Feb 23, 2022. 2 Replies 4 Likes
Started by Lionhound. Last reply by MadGomer Feb 18, 2022. 8 Replies 0 Likes
Started by Paul Craig. Last reply by Paul Craig Dec 9, 2021. 18 Replies 2 Likes
Started by Ken Hope. Last reply by Christopher G Daniels Nov 29, 2021. 4 Replies 1 Like
Posted by Vlad on March 31, 2024 at 11:48pm 0 Comments 1 Like
Posted by Vlad on March 6, 2024 at 2:32am 5 Comments 2 Likes
Posted by billy jones bluez on February 28, 2024 at 2:09pm 0 Comments 0 Likes
Posted by billy jones bluez on February 17, 2024 at 11:00pm 0 Comments 0 Likes
Posted by Vlad on February 11, 2024 at 1:06am 1 Comment 1 Like
May 11, 2024 from 11am to 8pm – Speakeasy Grill
0 Comments 0 LikesMay 30, 2024 from 6:30pm to 10pm – The Casual Pint of Huntsville
0 Comments 0 Likes© 2024 Created by Ben "C. B. Gitty" Baker. Powered by
Cigar Box Nation is presented by C. B. Gitty Crafter Supply, your one-stop-shop for Cigar Box Guitar parts and accessories!