Beginning Box Building. Nothing too fancy, but functional. For people who don't have easy access to cigar boxes. Other home made non-rectangular box resonator discussions are also welcome.
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Due to my mistake of using the word "Resonator" in the name of this group, there now appears to be two groups of contributors:
1.) People wanting to discuss basic sound box construction (my intended audience):
2.) People wanting to discus building resonator cigar box guitars using metal resonators like what Old Lowe is famous for making and selling:
About This Discussion Forum
For those folks interested in building Resonator CBGs and Resonator Parts, please enter your posts under the Discussion Forum under either the "Resonator parts" discussion, or the "Placing the Resonator" discussion. Also be sure to check out my "Useful Links" which includes links to some interesting Reso-CBG related topics and photos (see below).
Most of the rest of this Discussion Forum is dedicated to people interested in discussing the various methods and styles of box building, including woodworking techniques, joinery, decorating and the like. Maybe we can have a different discussion forum for each style of box (rectangular, circular, octagonal, etc.) We'll see how the group evolves.
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Num. of Sides = Corner Angles
3 sided = 60 degrees
4 sided = 45 degrees
5 sided = 36 degrees
6 sided = 30 degrees
7 sided = 25.71 degrees (26 is okay)
8 sided = 22.5 degrees
9 sided = 20 degrees
10 sided = 18 degrees
11 sided = 16.36 degrees (16 is okay)
12 sided = 15 degrees
15 sided = 12 degrees
16 sided = 11.25 degrees (11 is okay)
Note 1: Plus Shipping Charges
Note 2: Klangbox also makes an interesting low profile magnetic pickup called the "Flatpup 3 Humbucker", which has been well received by some CBN builders.
Started by mitch jones Dec 12, 2018. 0 Replies 2 Likes
G'day all,When I first began to get into this cbg thing, I quickly realised that there aren't any cigar boxes available in my part of the world, & they're too expensive on-line. That meant I had to make them. After my fist "proper" build, I…Continue
Started by Doug Patterson. Last reply by Paul Curry Apr 13, 2017. 9 Replies 0 Likes
If this is not the appropriate place to ask this question, I apologize. I'm preparing my first box for a resonator cone but am unsure as to where the piezo should be placed. Is it placed on the cone itself or somewhere on the box? Any advice will…Continue
Started by Ron Lutz. Last reply by Ken Vickerson Apr 10, 2017. 4 Replies 2 Likes
My very first cbg build is the neck on top instrument made with walnut top, quarter-sawn sycamore sides, cherry back and red oak neck. I did have a couple of small revisions after this photo was made, I added a walnut fretboard and put a veneer on…Continue
Started by Rand Moore. Last reply by Murdoc_420 Apr 3, 2016. 13 Replies 0 Likes
[Originally Posted: Mar 25, 2011] I have decided to call this the "boat paddle box", or simply the "paddle box" design, because of the shape of the final product. This body style is the traditional body style for stick dulcimers and was…Continue
Tags: sound box, stick dulcimer body, paddle box, canoe paddle, boat paddle
Started by Rand Moore. Last reply by Philip Hale Mar 28, 2016. 8 Replies 1 Like
Hi All...For a long time I have wanted to build a resonator based string instrument, but I've put it off for a long time because of a poor success rate on prototype builds. I had lots of excuses. Chief among them was the difficulty of cutting an…Continue
Started by Monterey. Last reply by Monterey Jun 28, 2015. 13 Replies 2 Likes
I made a box clamp out of 1" x 1.5" Spruce I ripped from a 2" x 4" on the tablesaw.The back piece is the length of the box. The 2 sides are 0.5" shorter than the sides of the box, plus 1" for the width of the back piece. The front piece is 4" longer…Continue
Started by Barsymes Cratchnee. Last reply by Monterey Mar 9, 2015. 6 Replies 0 Likes
So I've seen a number of builds on the site with solid wood tops such as spruce and was wondering where people get that kind of lumber. Buying thick stock, joining and planing? Online site with soundboard material? Just curious of people's sound…Continue
Started by sasquatch. Last reply by sasquatch Jul 27, 2014. 8 Replies 0 Likes
Let me start by saying that I don't consider myself an expert in this subject, but I have made two very successful resonator boxes with simplest of tools and cheapest of materials.This particular box is made from 6mm ply for the sides, 3mm ply for…Continue
Started by Barsymes Cratchnee. Last reply by gary sheldon Jun 17, 2014. 12 Replies 0 Likes
Was thinking about building my own box and one of the things I like about some of the cigar box builds I've seen is the ability to open the box when the strings are off. Seems silly, but a nice option if you want to swap necks (screwed, not glued),…Continue
Started by Darren Addy. Last reply by gary sheldon May 19, 2014. 9 Replies 0 Likes
I'll start off by saying that this may not be everyone's "cup of tea" and that some people might consider this "overthinking". To that I will simply say that one person's overthinking is another person's "understanding". Let's start with something…Continue
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So, is the difference something you can easily hear? How would you describe the different two: unstressed paint can lid vs. stressed?
PAINT CAN LIDS, Stressed food can lids....What about stressed paint can lids?
I decided to give that a try and had a pleasant surprise. I put the lid on the bench upside down and just went around the outside, near the lip with a ball pein hammer. Just one time and I didn't overdo it.
I think it is a great improvement over just straight paint can lid.
I put some bracing in this afternoon. It is getting pretty busy in there. There was an improvement in sound quality. My decibe meter showed an improvement too. from 94.0 to 96.5. Still not where I want to be, but getting better. Thanks for your suggestions guys!
Thanks so much for your sharing of your experience.
My main goal is a good acoustic sound. Amplified is secondary.
I could also go for the real cone, like you did. My concern is that the depth of the cone will possibly exclude the use of "neck through body" design.
I was really impressed with the sound of the Tinyguitars paint lid resonator guitar on Youtube. That is the sound I am looking for. Thanks again to you and Rand. Next step will be to stiffen the sound board and then I will check back with you guys.
Well, sharing my experience with my own testing, paint can lids, tin lids and doggy bowls etc all didnt ever make me happy. Once in a while you find something with some "ring" to it that works better than others, but the best of them in my experience gave "fair" results at best. I shifted my experiments to spun cone style "real" resonators some time ago, but I am still open to trying new things.
Gary, a hard wood bridge should work fine. I'd suggest efforts to minimize mass and at the same time, consider experimenting with embedded piezo style pickup to make the most of the cones sound, whatever you use for a resonator. A metal bridge might work fine too, but its not necessarily critical.
And yes, a rigid box in this application works well.
Rand,
Great suggestion about a thicker/braced soundboard. I will try bracing mine since the soundboard is a "testbed" and is easily removeable if nothing works. I still think a slightly larger paint can lid is the ultimate answer, but I don't know where to find one.
Also, I wonder if the wood bridge is hard enough to transfer the vibrations properly. It is Oak, but maybe it should be metal.
Gary
Thanks, Mark and Daryl.
I agree about the edge hammering to create tension in the steel. For now I am stuck on the paint can lid method. They are sturdy, the metal is a reasonable guage and they look good with a finished edge. There is a Youtube video from Tinyguitars that has the look and sound that I like. Also it is an acoustic guitar.
Here is my test bed guitar with the 1 ga Paint can lid. The body is home made with rather cheap materials and fairly massive. About 9" x 11". Maybe the body is just too large for the resonator I have
Ha! Beat ya! LOL!
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