I've bought a few different inexpensive pre-wired pickups with volume and tone controls pre-installed.  It's amazing what you can get for under $10!

I'm no trained musician, and I'm just playing a home built guitar through cheap pickup on a battery powered HoneyTone amp, but I don't notice a huge desirable difference with the tone control.  It does something for sure, I'm just not sure it's worth it.  The tone control on the amp seems to have more of an effect and a better effect on controlling the tone.  I like keeping things clean and simple so if I could just go down to a volume control I think that would be great.

For a quick slide guitar I made for myself, I just cut it off and kept the volume control.  I'm currently working on a guitar as a surprise gift for a friend who is a very good guitarist and I'm wondering if I should keep it for him or just ditch it.

What are your opinions?

Thanks in advance for your input,

Scott

Views: 211

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Scott, tone controls are hard to get value out of, firstly, most pots used on cbg's are cheap chinese stuff, often not working well to start with, then the value of the capacitor has to match the tone area you are seeking, and there's many variables of type and capacity there, i don't often fit tone controls any more, as it really isn't worth the effort to my mind, more than 1/2 the gits i've fitted them to, they barely make a difference, and sometimes just add a dead spot as you turn them

That makes a lot of sense.  I'm sure these inexpensive pre-wired setups don't have optimized values on the pots and capacitor for the specific pickup, and poor choices here could do far more harm than good.  I've noticed the dead spot you mention.

I think I'll join you in dispensing with the tone control and maybe re-use the pots elsewhere.  I like the volume control for convenience but you've confirmed my feeling that the tone knob isn't adding much to the value.

Thanks,

Scott

I just adjust my amplifier...

I saw a video of someone who had a humbucker on a switch. It was wired so you could run it as a humbucker or single coil for really clean sound. I think I’ll be doing that from now on, there was a nice change in tone from that.

On really tiny amps like the Honeytone it's difficult to detect any change in sound when you use the tone control...all you are hearing is distortion thru' a lo-fi little speaker. So if that's all you are playing through, it's fine, but you WILL notice the difference if you play through a bigger, better amp.

Ah! And my friend certainly has much nicer amps, so it might be worth it for his guitar. Thanks!

And it might have been you who had the video of the humbucker wired to a switch.
It was you, posted just yesterday. ZZ Top song :)

I agree with Chickenbone John. The tone control will play a bigger role with a nicer amp.

I don't like to fiddle with my amps all the time. Generally speaking as a player I like to have tone control, but as a builder I often don't add a tone control unless I use 2 pickups where I'll be wiring in a switch too. And for single pickup builds I often use Snake Oils (not the cheapest but better tone than super cheapos) which are not overly bright so don't need the tone rolled off to sound good. I prefer warm tone. 

Good info, thanks. I’m sure using pickups that cost more than $10 would help in many ways.

 I don't use either vol or tone. In my opinion they just muddy the tone. I just dial in my amp, also a pedal or two can get you what you are looking for.

I’ve seen a few demo videos where people showed a pickup run straight to the amp and then the same pickup with volume and/or tone controls added. It’s always clearer and better straight to the amp. I look at the volume control as a convenience, not needing to lean over and adjust the amp.

RSS

The Essential Pages

New to Cigar Box Nation?How to Play Cigar Box GuitarsFree Plans & How to Build Cigar Box GuitarsCigar Box Guitar Building BasicsCigar Box Guitar Parts Store

Site Sponsor

Recommended Links & Resources

Forum

First build in years.

Started by Cause the Blue rat in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Cause the Blue rat 5 seconds ago. 52 Replies

Amp wattage

Started by Joe Williams in Performances, How to Play, Lessons, Concerts. Last reply by Joe Williams 10 hours ago. 4 Replies

VIDEO: The World's Most Irritating Instrument

Started by Shane Speal shanespeal.com in Feature Articles. Last reply by Titch the Clown on Friday. 19 Replies

Lace pickup prints

Started by Andries D. EKER in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Andries D. EKER on Friday. 15 Replies

Loopy!

Started by Korrigan in Other stuff - off topic, fun stuff, whatever. Last reply by Andreas Fischer on Wednesday. 7 Replies

NEW INVENTION: Clip-On Amplifier Works Without Electricity

Started by Shane Speal shanespeal.com in Feature Articles. Last reply by Taffy Evans Jun 12. 16 Replies

The Fascinating World of Ed Stilley’s Guitars

Started by Shane Speal shanespeal.com in Feature Articles. Last reply by Dave Lynas Jun 12. 21 Replies

Guitar scale

Started by Christopher in Performances, How to Play, Lessons, Concerts. Last reply by Richard Dean Jun 11. 1 Reply

CBG using bass neck

Started by john keven kemege in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by john keven kemege Jun 11. 24 Replies

Latest Activity

Chris Lyons posted photos
1 minute ago
Cause the Blue rat replied to Cause the Blue rat's discussion Squall bucker piezo? Got results and hoping others would try this.
"Thanks Taffy, no the box was left open. I would cover the piezo with a small piece of 1/2 ply, a…"
26 minutes ago
Vern Hallett posted photos
29 minutes ago
Erasmo Coco commented on Derek Rose's video
Thumbnail

Run Little Girl - original song

" Very Nice Original ! Sounding Mighty Fine !"
31 minutes ago
Erasmo Coco liked Derek Rose's video
31 minutes ago
Erasmo Coco commented on Erasmo Coco's video
36 minutes ago
Taffy Evans replied to Cause the Blue rat's discussion Squall bucker piezo? Got results and hoping others would try this.
"Hi, I have just finished a cbg that will be my "Frankenstein" test bed for the testing of…"
51 minutes ago
Vern Hallett commented on Vern Hallett's photo
Thumbnail

PG - CBG - 3

"That's fine by me Korrigan. Glad you like it. ; )"
53 minutes ago
Austin K commented on Austin K's photo
Thumbnail

First build 2.0

"Thanks guys. I enjoyed it the way it was but now I'm real happy with the way it sounds and…"
1 hour ago
Rick Karlson updated their profile
1 hour ago
Rick Karlson liked Shane Speal shanespeal.com's group Introduce Yourself!
1 hour ago
Rick Karlson joined Shane Speal shanespeal.com's group
Thumbnail

Introduce Yourself!

We wanna know who you are! Where ya from? What'cha buildin'? This is a place for new members to…See More
1 hour ago

Music

Loading…

© 2018   Created by Ben "C. B. Gitty" Baker.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service