Alright, my first build is done, except for the high G string. It keeps breaking. I can't get past about a quarter step up from F before the horrendous "ping" of a broken string. I just got home from guitar center where I bought some Ernie Ball super slinky 11 gauge strings, tried to put one on, "PING". I have two more left, one in the pack, and one on the guitar resting at a quarter step down from F. What do I do?

Views: 229

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

It may be you are chasing the wrong 'g', ie, the wrong octave, a good rule of thumb way to overcome this is to tension the string [any string], until it just begins to sound full, and not sloppy, from there the next g or d you arrive at is the one you want. 

Depending on the sound you want, if your just after a GDg, why not use the A,D,G strings, just stop at G before arriving at A, for the base string, and the other 2 are designed to achieve the correct pitch. I do believe like stated by Daryl, your going past one g and heading for the next. And if you use the Ernie Ball strings, your g will be an unwound string still. When I use their strings, I use their custom/hybrid light strings, which starts at .009, I've actually went past the first g (using the .009) and actually hit the next one without breaking, but it was awful tight and hard on the fingers which is how I figured out what I did.

Thanks Richard, I should be heading out in the next few days to get a 12 string acoustic guitar, I'll be sure to grab a pack of strings when I do and give the ADG a shot .

also make sure your tuner is in "Chromatic" mode and not Guitar mode, since you are not tuning a standard 6 string....

Sounds like you may have a sharp point somewhere. I would look for sharp edges especially around the tail piece. 

I was tuning up a string, (low C from a cello string) and I was E-flat and going upwards and I got to thinking. Man, I've got a ways to go. So I found a "cello tuning" video on YouTube and, yeah, I was going for the octave above!

So check the dumb things first.

Like Richard says, use a .009 for the high G and it should work fine. If that breaks then you have a sharp edge somewhere.

I've broken stings trying to tune an octave too high so I went and found a tuner app that displays the note name, frequency and octave number, no problems since.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bork.dsp.datuna&a...

Standard guitar tuning is: E2 A2 D3 G3 B3 E4.

High G can sometimes be a real pain when trying to tune up, particularly if you are using a .09."

There are a couple of things you can do here, the first would be to examine the break angle of the string at the nut and the bridge. If it is too severe, it can cause additional pressure to the string which will cause it to snap.

If you want that higher pitch sound, try finding a string gauge in a .08". with that thickness you should be able to tune it up to G without worrying about breakage.

Also check out the article listed below. It can help explain some of the string gauges, why they are used, and what to use for different octaves.

https://www.cigarboxguitar.com/knowledge-base/open-g-gdg-tuning-on-...

There are a lot of ways to get gdg tuning but my favorite is the 345 strings. The strings are close to their "natural " tension when using a scale around 25".

I prefer the 25" scale myself. Easier to bend strings on scales shorter than 25.5", but harmonics are better above 24.5". So the 25" scale is a good compromise.

I always use a pitch pipe to tune unless I was tuning before a gig. It helps train your ear to hear those notes better.

RSS

The Essential Pages

New to Cigar Box Nation?How to Play Cigar Box GuitarsFree Plans & How to Build Cigar Box GuitarsCigar Box Guitar Building BasicsCigar Box Guitar Parts Store

Site Sponsor

Recommended Links & Resources

Forum

What's on your workbench?

Started by Paul Craig in Other stuff - off topic, fun stuff, whatever. Last reply by Michael Fred Johnson 5 hours ago. 536 Replies

First build in years.

Started by Cause the Blue rat in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Cause the Blue rat 6 hours ago. 2 Replies

Bending a backing plate

Started by Titch the Clown in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Timothy Hunter 6 hours ago. 8 Replies

VIDEO LESSON: How to Play the FUNK on 3-string Cigar Box Guitar

Started by Shane Speal shanespeal.com in Feature Articles. Last reply by Jeff 'Bones' Reilly 8 hours ago. 3 Replies

Dual disc piezos

Started by Brent Kasl in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by John Sawyer 14 hours ago. 1 Reply

Easy DIY Pre-Amp: Makes Piezo-Equipped Cigar Box Guitars Sound Better

Started by Shane Speal shanespeal.com in Feature Articles. Last reply by Titch the Clown 16 hours ago. 25 Replies

Questions on wiring up two piezos.

Started by Cause the Blue rat in Building Secrets, Tips, Advice, Discussion. Last reply by Cause the Blue rat 19 hours ago. 3 Replies

New box material

Started by Taffy Evans in Other stuff - off topic, fun stuff, whatever. Last reply by Taffy Evans 20 hours ago. 4 Replies

Latest Activity

BeetleJuice! replied to Andreas Fischer's discussion Need Resources, Book, DVD, Tabs, How to play frettless 3 String
"I would like to offer advice, and hopefully it doesn't offend anyone, you'll do much…"
9 minutes ago
Andreas Fischer replied to Andreas Fischer's discussion Need Resources, Book, DVD, Tabs, How to play frettless 3 String
"" I tend to collect as many beginner tutorials as I can afford. Ever teacher is a little…"
26 minutes ago
Andreas Fischer replied to Andreas Fischer's discussion Self buid Boxes - Advice apreciated
"Cool, so i will also try without bracing for the plate (future built - first i gonna make one with…"
32 minutes ago
Andreas Fischer replied to Andreas Fischer's discussion Self buid Boxes - Advice apreciated
"Thanks, its indeed a long time since i last saw a real cigarbox (did quit smoking 9 years ago) i…"
35 minutes ago
Andreas Fischer replied to Andreas Fischer's discussion Self buid Boxes - Advice apreciated
""Thin stuff resonates better than thick stuff, sound comes off the top, but also out of the…"
40 minutes ago
Andreas Fischer replied to Andreas Fischer's discussion Self buid Boxes - Advice apreciated
"Thats probably a good advice i thinkI shouldnt think to much, ill just go and start my first…"
42 minutes ago
T-Gripped liked Shane Speal shanespeal.com's blog post Shane Speal's upcoming book - see the cover. Plus cigar box guitars, concerts and more...
1 hour ago
JB left a comment for BeetleJuice!
"Hello brother John :) will do and I found one but not in the greatest shape but I got it anyway,…"
2 hours ago
Dave liked Dennis Goodinson's photo
2 hours ago
Andy Busch commented on Jittery Jay's photo
Thumbnail

33105814_894469764065860_9015663484230172672_n

"WOW!!  Beautiful work on the sound holes!"
2 hours ago
Andy Busch commented on Mike Capotorto's photo
2 hours ago
Mike Capotorto posted photos
2 hours ago

Music

Loading…

© 2018   Created by Ben "C. B. Gitty" Baker.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service