Hello,

I'm new to CBN and on my first cbg build. I'm trying to build a 3 string cbg using a scarf joint with poplar 1x2 stock.  I originally was going to have a longer headstock but do to trial and error with scarfing, I'm down to about 2 7/8" left of headstock. Ooops! The scarf angle is not much I think about 12 degrees.  I am not sure how to thin the headstock down to fit the tuners.  Should this be a tapered cut? Should the cut come off the back or the front? Where does the cut stop relative to the neck? How much distance needs to be between the first tuner and the nut? Here's a pic of what I'm working with.  Any help and suggestions is greatly appreciated! Thanks.

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No worries Darryl.  I ended up going with Chickenbone John's suggestion of shaving off a little from the top, creating a longer headstock.  It worked out well.  I'm finally over that little road block and am on my way to the next step. I had added little wings, but now that the head is longer, the wings are...well...short. LOL. A vicious cycle! I'm moving on!  I built a jig for fretting and that is a real game changer!! Plus, it was fun to build...anything to be involved with woodworking and being creative.  Thanks for your replyl

Bwahahahaa.   Whew Darryl, I was wonderin'.   I didn't wanna directly contradict you but...

Glad we're on the same track.  I thought there was maybe something you knew that I wasn't seeing.  : )

I enjoyed this topic, it was a good refresher for me and I liked Chickenbone's idea. This shows me why next time I do a scarf joint to do that very first thing, sure will relieve the scale length headaches behind.

The veneer Chickenbone John refers to is not just cosmetic. It will actually add strength to the headstock. Generally I use a 1/8" thick piece and then either run it through my little joiner or sand it.

I have some Cherry veneer, but it really is very thin veneer. If I had a joiner, I might consider the thicker stuff. What kind of joiner do you have? I might need one. (Haha) Hubby bought me a combo belt/disc sander, but I'm not good with it yet and have created additional problems for myself. :) I have lots of machine tools to work with, but I'm enjoying the hand tools. Thanks for your reply.

Dee Ann, cut your headstock to depth. Then make yourself a sanding board. Glue sandpaper on a small piece of plywood or chipboard. Smooth the cut on the sanding board and apply the veneer. Even a thin veneer is strengthening.
Next time you do a scarf, try flipping it over so the cutoff piece is above, rather than beneath, the scarf. When you install a fretboard, you can overlay it across the joint, further strengthening it. Or scarf not at all, and do a cut-down flat Fender style headstock.

Another thing to do would be cutting your scarf a lot further along the neck, so that you end up with a longer headstock. Remember, you can almost always start over.

Thanks Ron.  I actually started with 6" of extra headstock.  A couple of scarf joints later....I was down to 2 7/8" for the head.  Great learning curve! :) I'm skeptical of the scarf joint holding up to string pressure when the piece is on top.  I'm using Elmer's Wood Glue...sandable and stainable. It's not the Titebond I was going to get.  I hope this stuff holds. Thanks for your reply.

In place of TiteBond, I highly recommend Gorilla Glue type 2 (not the original foaming kind, the new formula).  Or you can use Elmer's Wood Glue or Professional Wood Glue; both work well.  And it'll hold-- as strong as the wood itself or stronger.

If you have clamps, and you should have clamps, use carpenter's glue. Well smoothed and clamped, the wood will break before the joint.

If you have garage sals in your area, that is where you look for cheap small clamps. I use about 10 clamps when I glue up a headstock.
The joint will hold, especially if you overlay a fingerboard. A large number of commercial gits are done exactly this way.

More than one way to skin a cat - another option would be to  cut a slot through the center of your headstockand mount your tuners on the side. The advantage is you do not have to remove any thickness to your headstock!

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