Electric Cigar Box Mandolin - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T11:39:03Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/electric-cigar-box-mandolin?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A3098506&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noCool, I think you'll be happy…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-05-21:2592684:Comment:31288512018-05-21T19:47:04.479ZThomas McGuiganhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/ThomasMcGuigan
<p>Cool, I think you'll be happy with the Kentucky, people speak very highly of them. I have been in WV a year. I am originally from Pittsburgh, and spent the last 22 years in El Paso, TX. I went down there in the Army, and stayed a while after I got out. I moved up here for a better job, and to be closer to family. My brother and his family live in Harpers Ferry.</p>
<p>Cool, I think you'll be happy with the Kentucky, people speak very highly of them. I have been in WV a year. I am originally from Pittsburgh, and spent the last 22 years in El Paso, TX. I went down there in the Army, and stayed a while after I got out. I moved up here for a better job, and to be closer to family. My brother and his family live in Harpers Ferry.</p> Mandolin is a great instrumen…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-05-21:2592684:Comment:31284732018-05-21T11:49:21.795ZThomas McGuiganhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/ThomasMcGuigan
<p>Mandolin is a great instrument, be prepared to become obsessed! I've been playing for about 4-1/2 years, and absolutely love it. I've connected with it like no other instrument.</p>
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<p>Mandolin is a great instrument, be prepared to become obsessed! I've been playing for about 4-1/2 years, and absolutely love it. I've connected with it like no other instrument.</p>
<p></p> Thanks for that reply Richard…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-05-20:2592684:Comment:31282042018-05-20T15:28:24.824ZKen Vickersonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/KenVickerson
<p>Thanks for that reply Richard, I had to read it four times to understand the concept and your suggestion but I see what you are getting at. I may have to build a deeper heel but that's doable. Enthusiasm doesn't always compensate for experience so I appreciate you sharing yours with me. </p>
<p>Thanks for that reply Richard, I had to read it four times to understand the concept and your suggestion but I see what you are getting at. I may have to build a deeper heel but that's doable. Enthusiasm doesn't always compensate for experience so I appreciate you sharing yours with me. </p> Hi Thomas here's a shot of my…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-05-19:2592684:Comment:31277892018-05-19T18:53:36.810ZKen Vickersonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/KenVickerson
<p>Hi Thomas here's a shot of my mandolin progress. I made a bridge from maple based on one from the Murphy Method link you send. I'm just trying to figure out the back angle and the tail piece. I reinforced the box as I'm planning to use threaded inserts to bolt the neck to the box. I hope your box is coming along, post some pics.…<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306700816?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306700816?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></a></p>
<p>Hi Thomas here's a shot of my mandolin progress. I made a bridge from maple based on one from the Murphy Method link you send. I'm just trying to figure out the back angle and the tail piece. I reinforced the box as I'm planning to use threaded inserts to bolt the neck to the box. I hope your box is coming along, post some pics.<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306700816?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306700816?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"></a></p> Hey Hans I tried out the neck…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-05-19:2592684:Comment:31276412018-05-19T18:42:23.526ZKen Vickersonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/KenVickerson
<p>Hey Hans I tried out the neck angle calculator, have a look at the screen shot. The suggested angle is a bit over 6 degrees, that seems quite a lot. Do you think this is correct? My finger board is a bit under a quarter inch thick, scale length 13 5/8 inches and my bridge is just under three quarters. I plan to use the disc sander to put the angle into the heel and use threaded inserts to bolt the neck to the box. I made the maple bridge according to plans on the Murphy method sight Thomas…</p>
<p>Hey Hans I tried out the neck angle calculator, have a look at the screen shot. The suggested angle is a bit over 6 degrees, that seems quite a lot. Do you think this is correct? My finger board is a bit under a quarter inch thick, scale length 13 5/8 inches and my bridge is just under three quarters. I plan to use the disc sander to put the angle into the heel and use threaded inserts to bolt the neck to the box. I made the maple bridge according to plans on the Murphy method sight Thomas linked me to. Any advice welcome.<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306700635?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306700635?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"></a></p> Thanks Hans I have a better u…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-05-08:2592684:Comment:31194782018-05-08T22:55:48.722ZKen Vickersonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/KenVickerson
Thanks Hans I have a better understanding of this now. I also appreciate the link to the angle calculator I will definitely use this for my build. I've already put a curved interior reinforcement inside the box under the bridge so I'm hoping this will counteract some of the string tension. I have a link to a paper on mandolin bridges provided by Thomas so I'll try to find one to suit my purpose and plug it into the calculator. Watch my my page for progress on my build. Thanks for taking the…
Thanks Hans I have a better understanding of this now. I also appreciate the link to the angle calculator I will definitely use this for my build. I've already put a curved interior reinforcement inside the box under the bridge so I'm hoping this will counteract some of the string tension. I have a link to a paper on mandolin bridges provided by Thomas so I'll try to find one to suit my purpose and plug it into the calculator. Watch my my page for progress on my build. Thanks for taking the time to respond and spread the knowledge. There are lots of people here…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-05-08:2592684:Comment:31172162018-05-08T13:34:21.447ZHanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Hans
<p>There are lots of people here on CBN who could explain this much better, actually understand the physics of a guitar, and know what they're doing, Ken, but I'll tell you what I know:</p>
<p>Angling the neck back by a few degrees has two major effects:</p>
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<li>It makes it much easier to achieve a nice low action because the course of the strings is more parallel to the fret board. </li>
<li>It allows for a steeper angle of the strings at the bridge (and for a higher bridge) which results…</li>
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<p>There are lots of people here on CBN who could explain this much better, actually understand the physics of a guitar, and know what they're doing, Ken, but I'll tell you what I know:</p>
<p>Angling the neck back by a few degrees has two major effects:</p>
<ol>
<li>It makes it much easier to achieve a nice low action because the course of the strings is more parallel to the fret board. </li>
<li>It allows for a steeper angle of the strings at the bridge (and for a higher bridge) which results in higher tension and more downward pressure from the strings onto the soundboard. And a soundboard that vibrates more produces more sound. The volume gain can be pretty spectacular in my experience. (This also has a downside, of course, because more downward pressure makes it more likely that your soundboard collapses - so if you're working with a flimsy box lid you should aim for a low bridge and/or brace it...)</li>
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<p>I first angled a neck by a few degrees when I built a mandolin a while ago. I didn’t plan to do it, but then it turned out that I couldn’t fit a mandolin bridge under the strings without getting an unplayable action. So I put some shims under the neck to angle the neck back about 3 degrees and, lo and behold, not only could I use a mandolin bridge and have a good action but the mandolin also got a lot louder. Ever since then I angle the necks on all my instruments.</p>
<p>There’s even an online calculator to find the perfect neck angle:</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow noopener" href="http://www.tundraman.com/Guitars/NeckAngle/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.tundraman.com/Guitars/NeckAngle/index.php</a></p> Hey Hans your advice is usefu…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-05-08:2592684:Comment:31167332018-05-08T00:31:21.779ZKen Vickersonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/KenVickerson
Hey Hans your advice is useful to me as I am constructing an acoustic version but I'm wondering about the back angle in relation to the bridge height. As I'm building on flat topped cigar box I'm thinking a lower bridge would be better. Tell me more about back angle,string pressure and tone. Thanks Ken
Hey Hans your advice is useful to me as I am constructing an acoustic version but I'm wondering about the back angle in relation to the bridge height. As I'm building on flat topped cigar box I'm thinking a lower bridge would be better. Tell me more about back angle,string pressure and tone. Thanks Ken Sorry, Thomas, I should have…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-05-07:2592684:Comment:31164722018-05-07T21:18:24.591ZHanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Hans
<p>Sorry, Thomas, I should have read through the thread before babbling something about string pressure on the bridge... A back angle in the neck also helps with getting a nice low action on electric instruments though. Ever since I started putting a 2 or 3 degree angle on my necks I don't have problems with high action at the high frets anymore. And it's easy to do.</p>
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<p>Sorry, Thomas, I should have read through the thread before babbling something about string pressure on the bridge... A back angle in the neck also helps with getting a nice low action on electric instruments though. Ever since I started putting a 2 or 3 degree angle on my necks I don't have problems with high action at the high frets anymore. And it's easy to do.</p>
<p></p> It's an electric, and doesn't…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-05-07:2592684:Comment:31165822018-05-07T20:20:02.972ZThomas McGuiganhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/ThomasMcGuigan
<p>It's an electric, and doesn't have a floating bridge.</p>
<p>It's an electric, and doesn't have a floating bridge.</p>