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I'm starting a new build, and was thinking of going to town and add brass corners and grommets. The question I have is, does the clutter glued, screwed or bolted to the lid of a box cause a noticeable change in the box's volume?
Also, I get the idea of a sound hole allowing the sound to escape from the box, but any cutting to the box's lid would cause the quality of the resonance to dip. Is there an optimum sound hole size to get the best of both worlds?
(I've added a photo of the box I'll be using, just for a point of reference.)
I was with you right up to "Aw thanks..."
"all you grommet and bolt guys"
You've open Pandoras Box Vinyl, Everything effect the volume thus eveything effect tone. How loud you can get a box guitar is always the issue. A cigar box has a small amout of air space or volume so it already limited, you wil never make an acoustic CBG as loud as a Gibson Jumbo. My personal view is metal does not belong on an acoustic guitar. Having said that some bridges trapeze, clam shell are part of a style and o.k. The more metal on a box corners, grommits,bolts,drainscreens, add wieght and KILL VIBRATION vibration is volume and tone, I have said it before Martin and Gibson don't use bolts for Bridges and nuts they use material that transfer vibration a 3/8 bolt does not.
The history of the CBG is to use whats is laying around (to make something out of nothin) If you want an ornate guitar build it, put everything including the kitchen sink on it and we have seen that- Bedpan-
But if you want the best sound a box will give you, your gonna need alot of boxes, its endless.
We got people on this site that make great sound with very little, Voicing is the most important part of building.
Were Gonna Need A Lot Of Boxes!!!!!!!
Oily, I don't know where to start! That's a full and lengthy response, thanks for your time and expertise. The bottom and sides of the box are wood, but the lid is a little thick and I suspect just board. This doesn't worry me too much, as I've read comments to the effect that they still sound okay. I made a guitar for my nephew last year from a similarly designed box, and it sounded just fine acoustically (despite no sound hole) and through the piezo
Good point about the corners, I should have thought of that.
You're quite right about the dangers of over thinking things, but this is a commission, so I'm feeling the pressure to make a guitar that works well and looks the part. I'm not sure I'm up for cutting violin style sound holes, and grommets can cover up jagged edges. So, I'll probably add a couple of those.